Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Published by Nintendo, Developed by HAL Labs

Genres: Fighting

US release date: Mar 9th, 2008 | EU release date: -

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

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So here we are. More than a year and a half after its announcement, Super Smash Bros. Brawl has finally reached Wii owners in the US. So, is the game worth it? In a word... yes. In two words, Hell yes! A Star Studded Slamfest! Overall, Brawl doesn't change much in the...read full review

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Rumble Falls SSBB stage
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Zero Suit Samus info
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SSBB - Samus' Final Smash
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Deoxys in Smash Bros pokeballs
Another Pokemon shown on the official Smash Bros Brawl update today, it's Deoxys. Like others, he springs from a Pokeball when used by a...

Star Fox Space Armada music in SSBB
A piece of music called "Star Fox: Space Armada" unveiled today on the official Super Smash Bros Brawl blog. This tune also featured in...

Don't go back to Smashville
Friday again, it rolls around so fast. A new stage for Super Smash Bros Brawl is called Smashville. Its theme is heavily based on the world...

Donkey Kong in SSBB
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Smash Bros Brawl release date
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Bumper item in SSBB
A new item in Super Smash Bros Brawl revealed today. It's called the bumper and it was a part of the original SSB game on the N64, nine...

Dr Wright assisting in Brawl
A new assisting character in Super Smash Bros Brawl has been revealed today by Sakurai. He's Dr Wright! No, it's not the guy from Trauma...

Bridge of Eldin stage in SSBB
The Bridge of Eldin from The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is to be a stage in Super Smash Bros Brawl according to today's official...

Types of attack in SSBB
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Giga Bowser playable in SSBB
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erg0 said:

Man I can't wait for this to come out, it's gonna be the best thing ever! ^_^

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Cheza said:

This is the Super Smash Bros game we have all been waiting for!

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Alainmeyer1 said:

I can't wait for this game. It's gunnu be great!

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Nintendo Fan said:

With fond memories of Super Smash Bros. Melee, my hopes are high for this one. And I want to see how Capcom's Solid Snake will fare against the Nintendo characters. Even if the game does not make use of the Wii's motion sensing technology, it's still gonna rock!

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#1 Nintendo fan said:

WOW! I might just get WII for this game. I haven't seen any others I like.

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gordon said:

MediKnight AND suitless Samus?! This game looks awesome!

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Booya! said:

Can't wait til the game comes out. Snake's from Konami btw.

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Xbox lord said:

This is the only reason I'm getting the Wii.

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hawk said:

Samus looks like the woman from Kill Bill.

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Virgil said:

Can not wait for who they are gonna add next, and I can't wait for this game altogether!

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klepfnorchek said:

Truly god's greatest creation.

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El Hobo-San said:

What? None of you are excited WARIO made the cut this year?

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Gunnex said:

Finally! Meta knight, suitless Samus and that guy from Kid Icarus. It's about time!

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OTKSotHQ said:

Wonder if other characters will appear in the game.

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OldManHayes said:

With high-calibre games such as this, the Wii will likely sell very well, despite its diminuitive name.

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Super Matt said:

They announced 3rd party characters (as in from other companies) so Sonic could be in it!

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Lucas the ONE said:

I wish to know if it comes along with the wii package cos... I WANT ONE! Truly god has given us a great creation! I wonder if Waluigi will be in it?

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Toffee Pop said:

This is gonna rock!

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Shirobon said:

AWESOME! I can't wait to see the Wii.

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Green Wario said:

Yes the clash between Nintendo characters lives on!

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Jerry said:

If Sonic is in it, I hope Tails will be in it too.

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JJ4eva said:

Sonic, in Smash Bros... awesome! o.o Tails, in Smash Bros... er, semi-awesome.

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big lord face said:

I can't w8 for this to be out. It has Pit in it, Pit is awesome with his dual swords.

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Epsilon said:

The new Smash Bros. looks AWESOME! I just hope all the characters from the previous game will be in it. It'd be a real downer if they aren't. BTW: It was announced at E3 that it's not going to be released until 2007. Oh, and the announced new characters' names are (for those who don't know): Meta Knight (the one with the mask), Pit (the angel guy), Zero Suit Samus (the one in the blue suit), Wario (the fat guy) and Snake (the cool-looking guy). Oh, and they have a movie of it on Nintendo's Super Smash Bros. Dojo website.

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Wii's World said:

Personally I'd rather see Knuckles in it than Tails. Knuckles would kick more asses! Or maybe someone wacky like Dr Robotnik.

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SSBB Master said:

SSBB rules! I am a big fan of Nintendo and this game is one of the reasons I am buying Wii.

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Hyrule lord said:

The graphics are well done and Link looks cool! And Epsilon, the creator of this game said every character from SSBM might return.

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Some Random Person said:

Too bad it comes out in 2007. Oh well I bet it'll be worth the wait.

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Hyrule lord said:

It's too bad that japanese fans are being asked who they want to be included in SSBB. If they ask the American fan, I'm gonna say Vaati and maybe Cloud from Final Fantasy. Who do YOU want to be included?

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OTKSotHQ said:

Hope Sonic and Tails will be there!

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NoName said:

What about Shadow!

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Ishisu said:

This game is going to change smash bros as we know it.

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Caex said:

Is that the ship from Skies of Arcadia in the background of the link pic!? That means we could play with Vyse! Yay! This looks really cool.

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SSBB Master said:

No, I think its the Halberd from Kirby Super star.

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M.A.X said:

Sorry to dissapoint Caex, but that ship belongs to Meta-Knight.

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daniel13789 said:

no, its metaknights ship

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KuzureShadow said:

Because my favourite game character is Shadow, I would really like to see him in this along with Sonic. Though, only Sonic would work great. Think about playing the former rivals Mario vs Sonic! Hope it's more than a rumor and thats Sonic really is in it, it would be AWESOME!

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Epsilon said:

I think it would be pretty cool to see Sonic or Megaman in it. And if they do put Sonic in I'll bet $1000 that one of the battle stages is Green Hill Zone.

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Epsilon said:

Ooh! I forgot to mention the new super moves. Pretty much, there'll be a super rare item in the shape of the SSB emblem and whichever character gets it uses his or her super moves. So far, Nintendo has shown the super moves of Mario, Link and Kirby. Mario's is a giant Kamehameha-like fireball, Link runs up to one enemy and slashes them an incredible number of times. As for Kirby, he turns into Cook Kirby and well, I bet you can guess what goes in his pot.

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SSBB Master said:

I would like Sonic, Shadow, Silver, any Fire Emblem character, any legendary Pokemon and any other 3rd party character to be in SSBB. But I got a lot more character and stage ideas.

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Epsilon said:

Legendary Pokemon? Nah, I mean it'd just be too weird.

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sonics sidekick said:

Please put Sonic and Shadow. If not Shadow at least Knuckles.

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Lunchbox said:

Alright before I start, Hyrule lord you're dumb on the Cloud thing, the reason they're not asking americans is they want semi-nintendo characters, not completely off. Now Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles would be nice characters (the clavats) Locke or Terra from Final Fantasy III. Any Skies of Arcadia, maybe an RE person (Leon or Claire), characters from Golden Sun. Oh and don't forget Baten Kaitos, Zero or Mega-man from Megaman, Dragon Warriors charcaters, Phantasy Star characters, Paper Mario, Tales of Symphonia. Those are some of my wanted/plausible SSBB characters.

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mhernandez1987 said:

This is one of the first games for the wii I am going to get.

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SSBB Master said:

Anyone know that stage that's on top of a sky that also looks like the battlefield stage? What game is it from?

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king of the shark's said:

This game should have Sonic, Tails, Master Chief, Mew, Bowser jr, Shadow Mario, Waluigi and Conker that would be the shizzle nizzle.

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Hyrule lord said:

I hope all 3 links from Majora Mask will be playable. Also do you guys remember Fierce Deity from MM? It would be cool if he's playable and he looks cool. I hope Hal Labs are reading this. I really want to play as Fierce Deity and maybe the 3 links. Don't forget Vaati too!

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JD said:

I don't care who's in it (Although Sonic, Shadow and a bunch of others would be cool). It's gonna be a great game, and one more reason to buy the wii! Oohh, Phantom Ganon would be cool too though and Baby Bowser, and Shadow Mario. Yeah, anyway it's gonna be great hehe. King Dedede would be a fun character!

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JD said:

Cloud, Sephiroth, Kadaj, Sora and Riku should be there. No doubt most people won't have a clue what I'm talking about. Giga Bowser should be playable, a couple of Fire Emblem people and maybe some people from Soul Calibur. I'd like to see how they cope!

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sonic lover said:

Sonic, Tails, Knux, Shad kicking Mario's ass that would ROCK!

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Nicholas said:

samus is a BABE!!!

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Hyrule lord said:

I just hope the creator of this game can include as many characters & stages as he can for SSBB. And Lunchbox, I actually heard about the Cloud rumor from many people and I thought MAYBE it would be cool to see him in SSBB.

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SSBB Master said:

Hey Epsilon, did you know those super rare item you mentioned are called the "Smash Orb"?

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#1 fan of Wii world said:

I am sooo getting the Wii! And Lunchbox, let's not call people dumb. These comment boxes are for your comments for the wii or its game. Lets not disagree each other. Everyone's idea is cool. Now I hope I can make friends here. Epsilon, SSBB Master, Hyrule Lord, and Sonic lover seems nice in my opinion, will you guys be my friends? (:

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king of the shark's said:

Are we all just thinking about the guys we can play as? Think about the stages, items and Kirby's sucking ability too! I mean what would he look like if he sucked up Snake or Wario.

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George McHill said:

If it has Snake it should have Rydener, Sonic, Tails, Shadow, Knuckles, Cloud , Sephiroth, Sora, Riku, Ganon WITH THE SWORD. It will be splendid.

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Nathan Schotten said:

Oh god! This game is gonna be GREAT! Mainly because of Solid Snake, he will own them all. We all know that, don't we?

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DA DUDE said:

This game will kick ass, take that Xbox 360!

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SSBB Master said:

What? Not many of you are excited about the new stages?!? I think my favorite one is the castle from Fire Emblem and the stage where Snake and Link are. Look at the 2nd last screenshot.

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sonic lover said:

I would like the Master Emerald Shrine to be in it.

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daruni106 said:

Hey, that second to last screenshot that Link and Snake are in that SSBB Master mentioned? That looks an awful lot like the Nuclear Waste Disposal Faciility on Shadow Moses Island in Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes!

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1 up mushroom said:

Hey doesn't this site have a screenshot of Wario?

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Hyrule lord said:

It's weird that Kirby didn't change but every other character did. Link looks like the one who changed a lot.

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wii owns you said:

I have no comment worthy of describing this concentrated mass of awesomeness mistakingly referred to as just a game.

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Hyrule lord said:

It's weird and I can't believe I'm saying this but I heard there was gonna be a sex mini-game in this game.

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croy said:

Sonics sidekick is right guys except for Knuckles being in the game.

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king of the shark's said:

I just thought of something. What if this game had anime characters in it, you know like Goku, Luffy, Naruto and Bobobo. That would be pretty cool.

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Koen van Beeck said:

I'm looking forward to this game. But I am getting pretty sick of all those "I hope non-nintendo-character-that-will-most-likely-never-make-it-into-any-SSB-game-EVER will be in it!" I keep hearing everywhere. Snake is literally MORE than enough to me. Let's hope this game won't disappoint, seeing as it won't really use the WiiMote's unique control.

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sonic super freak! said:

What happens if Snake did the 1,000 years of pain on Link? HAHA.

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Majinpicclo said:

I am buying the Wii and the PS3. Can't wait for this game.

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JD said:

Actually forget Kadaj, Cloud and Sephiroth. Keep Sora and Riku. Time for some ol' skool Characters! Mario with fludd, Shadow Mario, Baby Bowser, Vaati, Ganon (as in the big A** monster), Waluigi, Daisy, Toad, Raiden, From Metal Gear, Dark Samus, Diddy kong. And maybe, just maybe, Pensuke. Oh yeah, and Feirce Deity Link. As for levels, I think Ganon's Castle from OOT and also outside of it when it's crumbling. This game will be so awesome! With or without that stuff, but mostly with!

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g33 said:

I'd like to have the Turtles in it ;)

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Lynx said:

That would be the worst sin against humanity ever.

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Hyrule lord said:

Toad? Nah, Peach already has a move using toad.

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SSBB Master said:

Huh? SEX mini-game? Are you sure Hyrule Lord?

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SSBB Master said:

Oh yeah, in this one site it said that 3 new characters were going to be in this game. They were: Bowser Jr., Ridely and the Wind Waker Link. It also said that the Ice Climbers, Mr. Game & Watch and Young Link were NOT going to be in this game. It hasn't been confirmed yet but I hope it's false because Ice Climbers are cool and they are one of my favorite characters.

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chaba said:

If they added Konami character Solid Snake, I'd say they should add Alucard from Castlevania: Symphony of the Night as a secret character.

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unknown said:

Keep all other characters from Melee.

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JD said:

When is this game coming out? Because I heard it won't be a launch title.

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bc said:

You should put Sora and Riku on the game because they were in CoM. So they are a part Nintendo like Sonic.

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i rule said:

Smash Bros online and with Pit. Yep, it's gonna be good.

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JD said:

I agree about Sora and Riku.

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SSBB Master said:

When I get this game, who wants to face me online? I'm really good. As my name says, I'm the master (I think). It'll be fun.

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1 up mushroom said:

Cool game. I'm definitely gonna get this. Hey Koen van Beeck, according to an interview there are going to be 1-2 more 3rd party characters excluding Snake.

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Hyrule lord said:

Wind Waker Link? Cool, Cel shaded in 3D SSB world. I hope it's true but I also hope they keep all characters from Melee. Especially Young Link unless he is replaced by Cel shaded Link.

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Andr913 said:

This will kick MAJOR butt!

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i rule said:

They can't have 3 links because although I know this is not true, it looks like they are running out of ideas.

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DEMON5007 said:

I nearly crapped myself when I saw the movie for this (not really). I'll have to get a Wii just to play this game. Although I'll probably get one because of Metroid Prime 3 as well.

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Luigi the pizza man said:

This game looks so good. I'd like to see the baby mario bros in it! They could work together like the ice climbers! Oh and also fierce link from MM would be cool too.

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some random stranger said:

This game will be AWESOME! I can't wait to use Suitless Samus and Pit. Metaknight and Snake will be awesome too. My hope is that this game will have Ganon (big scary monster with swords).

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JD said:

Oh apparently they'll have ALL the characters from SSBM and over double the characters. I don't know if it's true, but I hope it is.

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sidar said:

Snake is from Konami unless I'm mistaken, not Capcom. What's up with the Sonic, Tails and Shadow? What's so great about the sega characters? Kid Icarus is just a must have! I knew he was gonna be in it.

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SSBB Master said:

I heard that the clones in SSBM are now going to be separate characters. If this is true, then I hope that Ganondorf will use his sword and Dr. Mario to use some Doctor equipment.

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Fishmon said:

Sonic would rule, they should put him in! If they put him and Megaman in there could be a company war! Mario for Nintendo, Sonic for Sega, Megaman for Capcom and Snake for Konami. That would rule!

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JD said:

No, no, no not Mario, not Sonic, not war. Well, not company wars. Everyone fights, despite what the company is. Oh and also, Link is cooler than Mario, so it should be Link for Nintendo.

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Noah of Nintendo Bunker said:

YES! Now we're getting into some good Wii games! I'm rooting for Sonic in this one. There are probably 200 characters in it.

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Fishmon said:

I think Link is cooler and better but in the battle the company should use their biggest mascot. It just makes more sense. Come on, how can you not want to see that JD?

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XxSMASH-LORDxX said:

I seriously hope they put Sonic in, that would be great. Also you know how all the characters will have a new special move, well Sonic's should be like he presses his watch and it calls Tails and Knuckles. Tails first flies in, picks up the person who Sonic is fighting, spins them around then throws them up in the air. Then Knuckles comes and jumps and in the air and punches them down hard causing a big explosion. Damn Nintendo you need Sonic, he is a must have!

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nintendo freak said:

I can kick butt in SSBM, I could probably beat SSBM Master.

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Someone cooler than you said:

You know who would be better than Sonic? ANYONE. Seriously, I'm getting tired of the "OMG Sonic must be in teh game!" posts people are putting all over the internet. Come on! There are hundereds of other characters that would be way better than him. And don't even get me started on Tails and Knuckles. If you put them in the game, you might as well put in Tom Nook, Daisy, Spongebob, Empty soda can, Pichu and all the other crappy characters you can think of! Anyways, I think that there should be a stage where you're in a volcano and the lava is rising, and you have to get to the top and push everyone into the lava. That would be cool.

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king of the shark's said:

I wonder about Master Hand. Maybe he gets a body this time.

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SSBB Master said:

I agree with Someone cooler than you. You people should stop posting that Sonic or other Sonic characters might be in this game. Almost everyone here has posted that I hope Sonic will be in this game! Post other stuff like the stages and the items.

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Epsilon said:

Why would Sora and Riku be in it? It makes no sense, aside from Chain of Memories, the Kingdom Hearts series is on the PS2.

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DEMON5007 said:

Good idea, SSBB Master. Let's talk less about characters and more about the other stuff. You know how sometimes the matches in SSBM can get really intense, and you just want to capture the moment? Maybe they should have a "record match" feature in the game. Like a save replay thing?

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SSBB Master said:

I heard that the 1 player mode is going to be different. I hope they keep the Adventure mode and the All-stars though. The classic mode is okay. If they're gonna keep the adventure mode then I hope there is going to be more adventuring than fighting.

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Fishmon said:

What kind of stages do you guys want? I always turn items off in ssbm so I don't care about them. I think it would be cool to play on Volvagia's arena from OoT. It would be about the size of final destination. It could have those fiery geysers shoot lava up every once in a while. Sometimes Volvagia would come down and shoot flames and drop rocks on its way back up. That would rule! By the way I heard from somewhere that it's supposed to come out in Q1 of 2007. I don't remember where or if it's true or anything. I just read it a couple of days ago. It could be right or wrong, I don't know. Just some info I read.

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Fishmon said:

I read somewhere today that it's to come out in Spring of 07.

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SSBB Master said:

I wonder what will the Final Destination and the Battlefield stage will look like. Anyone know what that stage is? Look in screenshots 1, 2, 4 and 6.

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ness said:

This is gonna be good if it has Ridley.

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Someone cooler than you said:

How about a Tetris stage? You would have to jump across the falling blocks! The stage would be over a bottomless pit. And, what about a stage where you run from an avalanche? You could throw people into the avalanche!

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Someone cooler than you said:

You know what would be great? What if you could make your own characters. That would be awesome!

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Twangalang said:

Someone cooler than you, it would be cool if you could upload a picture of yourself through the usb ports when you make your own characters.

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kahfkdahk said:

Where's Sam Fisher?

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LordRandom said:

Two things. I praise whoever it was that decided to put Suitless Samus in this game, and I don't want anyone denying that they like Samus' looks. There could be one retro arena for each character, or maybe an all-stages-in-one mode where you can switch between arenas when a character leaves the stage or something.

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JD said:

I agree with Someone cooler than you. I love creating characters in games.

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Tony said:

Someone cooler than you loving how you put 'empty soda can' before Pichu. He was probably my worst character. Diddy Kong would be good, he'd have all his DK64 moves, including a jetpack for his 3rd jump and the peanut guns.

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supersmashboy said:

New People (others): Bowser Jr., Wind waker Link and Ridley. You can play as these. Say bye to: Mr. Game and Watch, Ice Climbers and Young Link.

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SSBB Master said:

Actually the 3 new characters are just a rumor. It isn't confirmed yet.

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metroid lover said:

I can't wait to play this game online with all of you guys when the game gets to stores!

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Fishmon said:

I'll play a friendly competition with you metroid lover but I'm gonna kick JD's butt with Sonic! He's in the game, I know he is! I just know! And then maybe I'll beat him to oblivion with Megaman! He's probaby in the game. As for you metroid lover I might be Metaknight or Pit. I'm not gonna be the same char as you. I hate having more than one of the same character in a match. Except for this morning when I had a tournament of 64 Marios going against each other lol.

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metroid lover said:

I'm probably going to use link or samus since those are the only characters I'm good with.

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ShadowLink said:

What if they put gorons and zoras. That would be cool

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SSBB Master said:

I can't wait to face all of you!

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Someone cooler than you said:

I just had a great idea. How about you can download characters from other games. Like, let's say you buy Pikmin Wii. You can download Captain Olimar into the game! Think about all the characters you could get!

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Pea- Tear- Griffin said:

As long as Peach and Zelda are in, along with a stage like the zelda ruins from ssbm then I am buying this thing.

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plok said:

Scty that really is an awesome idea. Guess there's not much chance of it happening though.

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Count CoCo Fang said:

This game is one of the best looking Wii games so far. I want it more so than Zelda:TP!

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Gina the Bat said:

Omg, so getting this!

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kahfkdahk said:

C'mon they should have Sam Fisher vs. James Bond vs. Duke Nukem, gunning down all the nintendo characters.

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king of the shark's said:

I wonder if giga bowser gets bigger.

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Dory said:

I have a dream to see a clash. Sonic vs Mario, not in a flash movie but in a real game. I hope Tails and Knuckles get in this, but sega might only try to get Sonic in. Well I can still pit him against Mario.

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Lightchu said:

Oh no, we're talking about the characters again.

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Veedit said:

Forget Sonic, Tails and Knuckles. You have to put NiGHTS into the game. If they're going to put anyone from sega into the game, they should put that character in.

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quartzlcc said:

If Sonic is actually in it, that will be REALLY awesome. But unfortunately Sonic is on other consoles than Nintendo's, even now. But you can still wonder, regarding Snake.

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JD said:

I don't care about levels or characters - Even though I really do. I just wanna go online and Whup everyone! I need this game. Most of all I need the console but, um yeah.

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SSBB Master said:

I hope they bring back the special mode like the camera mode and the stamina mode.

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Cheza said:

I think that Wolf Link from Twilight Princess should be another form of Link like Zelda/Sheik in SSBM. And give Ganon his own moves like the ones from the final battle in OOT.

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king of the shark's said:

Here is the list of pokemon characters I want in the game: mew, lugia, charizard, blastoise, raichu, parasect and abra.

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Butthole said:

You guys stop with your dreams! They're never going to come true! These guys will never come. Where the hell do u get Sonic and them anyways?

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SSBB Master said:

Let's talk about something else that has nothing to do with characters!

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lordrandom said:

Does anyone else have any item ideas? how 'bout the characters can use items from other games like they did with the mushroom in SSBM? It'd also be kinda cool if the characters' clothing wore down after they got beat up a lot.

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Kirby4Wii said:

Hey there's already one kirby villain, why not add another like King Dee Dee Dee! C'mon who DOESN'T like that weird duck thing.

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sega sam said:

For one I'll talk about whatever the hell I want regardless of whether you want to hear it or not capiesh. Now I would definitely like to see sonic in there. There's a good chance but I'm not getting my hopes up. For items capsules could drop and you could get rings, invincibility or the running shoes. And as a super move he could turn into super sonic. If tails is in there (which I doubt) he could fly on his plane and shoot people. But being realistic if they put sonic in there then it's probably just gonna be Sonic, Tails would be pushing it. You can forget Knuckles and everyone else. If you have a nasty comment keep it to yourself, it doesn't serve to change anything just pisses me off.

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SSBB Master said:

Actually, there is a HUGE possibility that Sonic is playable because on the poll of the official website, lots of people want him in this game.

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Someone cooler than you said:

(Finally, after hearing about how great Sonic would be in SSBB, SCTH finally snaps). The only dang reason why people want Sonic in this game is because of that stupid April Fools joke! If that magazine never made that "Sonic in Smash Bros.' rumor, I bet he wouldn't be in SSBB. Why? Because Sonic is a crappy fighting game character. I mean come on! He runs, jumps, does that one homing attack and turns into Super Sonic! That's all! I have yet to see a Sonic game where he does any attacks good enough to get him in a fighting game. And Tails? Sorry to upset all Tails fans (yes, all 4 of you) but there is no chance in hell that Tails will ever be in Smash Bros!

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Sonic the true master said:

Sonic, Shadow and other sonic characters will not be added. Believe me I know.

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Me said:

Nintendo stated something about that they can't use Sonic. They're trying to go around it since the people want Sonic.

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Lightchu said:

If Sonic is playable then I hope he will use moves from Sonic Battle.

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Aleanur said:

They can't use characters that aren't in games published by Nintendo, Sonic CAN'T be used because Sony owns its rights. Snake was in this game, because there was a Metal Gear game for the SNES. Characters like Sora and Riku can't appear! I just can't stand this weird talk, get your facts straight.

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SSBB Master said:

Then let's talk about stuff that will appear in this game 100%.

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Darunia106 said:

I'm sorry Ale, but you need to get YOUR facts straight. The only Nintendo systems to feature Metal Gear games were the NES (Metal gear 1 & 2), Game Boy Color (Metal Gear Solid), and the Gamecube (Metal Gear Solid: the Twin Snakes). And it is NOT possible for Sony to own the rights to Metal Gear, otherwise there would never be a Metal Gear for the Xbox, yet there is a Metal Gear Xbox title. In the past, Super Smash Bros featured only characters from Nintendo published titles, yet a character from a third-party developer and publisher will be playable in this game. This is why people are more hopeful than ever to have a third-party developer's characters in the game, like Sega's Sonic and Capcom's Megaman. But I also have my doubts, Metal Gear Solid, The Twin Snakes was a remake of the original and was remade with the help of Silicon Knights (the company that made Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem) and was also aided in development by Shigeru Miyamoto (the genius who created Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Star Fox, and Pikmin). So it is very possible that it will only feature characters from games originally released for Nintendo video game systems. And just because you see at the beginning of every game "licensed by Nintendo" it only means Nintendo has given the publisher permission to release the game on their system. The same goes with Sony and Microsoft. Now that I've set everyone's minds straight, go do some actual research while I take a nap.

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drew_crocker said:

Sonic was owned by sega, not sony. There are plenty of sonic games on gamecube. Snake was also on gamecube on the twin snakes, which was a remake of metal gear solid. There will not be any ps2 or xbox exclusive characters in the game.

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greatqueenfan said:

Banjo and Kazooie can not appear because they are owned by rare. Microsoft owns rare. Keep only first party characters for smash. They should have custom character download mode, then Mega Man, Banjo, Sonic, Splinter Cell and co could be in game through their publishers uploading their characters.

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Keayu_the_Keaton said:

You know who I think should appear in SSBB? Lloyd from Tales of Symphonia. Maybe Genis too.

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Ja-Mez said:

Come on SEGA! We want SONIC! I've got ideas for his moves already:

Jump: X BUTTON (He jumps). Double Jump: 2X X BUTTON (He flips into a ball}. RETURN JUMP: UP+B BUTTONS(Flips with blue aura and can hurt people like samus can). He will obviously be the fastest runner. Ring Throw: Press B and he throws a ring. Sonic Spin:DOWN+B BUTTONS (Will roll around like Yoshi's Egg Roll). Sonic strike: B+LEFT/RIGHT (Must charge and then ram an opponent). Punch Punch Kick: Press A three times. Scissor Kick: UP+A BUTTONS (Flips backwards while kicking his legs). Spin Kick: A+LEFT/RIGHT (Quickly spins around to kick an opponent) Can Charge. Sonic Blast: A+DOWN (Crosses his arms over his face then smacks the crap out of enemies near him sending them skyward). Well, that would be if you can plug in gamecube controls or the new controls if they have the same butons.

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kahfkdahk said:

The splinter cell idea was all me, now if they could just get Conker in the game.

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supersmashboy said:

Actually metroid lover it was confirmed by the French.

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crapman said:

Banjo and Kazooie are owned by Nintendo!

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Zar said:

Banjo and Kazooie is a Rare original series, and thus unaffiliated with Nintendo.

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kahfkdahk said:

There has been a rumor that Ubisoft may be adding characters to the roster, which includes Rayman, the prince and (drumroll), Sam Fisher! I went bezerk when I found this out. This is no joke either.

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Flamic said:

Sony does not own the majority of sonic rights, Nintendo does.

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Flamic said:

I like how zero suit Samus looks sexy, smooth, flexible and hot.

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Ja-Mez said:

I'm agreeing with flamic there. I've now written down what Shadow's moves would be, next will be tails: A: Punch Punch Kick(tap A 3 times). A+LEFT/RIGHT: Rocket kick (Shadow whops someone with a fiery kick). A+UP: Rocket Blast (Shadow slams his foe with an explosive kick). A+DOWN: Bazooka (Shadow blasts people with rockets but drops his item that he's holding - It's from shadow the game). B: Ring toss (Like Sonic, except throws 3 rings but doesn't make foe flinch). B+LEFT/RIGHT: Shadow Ball (Shadow rolls around like Sonic except with fire around him). B+UP: Chaos Control (Shadow will turn blue and zoom back as a return move but doesn't hurt people). B+DOWN: Chaos Blast (Charge for three secs and whamo! All enemies around him are toast!). X: Jump (Shadow does a standard leg jump and he can wall jump). Tap X twice for double jump. He will flip twice quickly. X+A: Chaos Kick (Shadow kicks down hard to slam the crap out of an opponent). X+B: Chaos spear (Shadow fires 3 blue glowing spears at an enemy).

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Ja-Mez said:

I'm glad they finally made an alternative character from Metroid: Zero Suit Samus, Ridley, Gravity Suit Samus and Kirby's Dream land: Kirby, Meta night and King Dedede. I wonder if Samurai Goroh or whatever his name is will be in it from F-Zero.

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Ja-Mez said:

Ya know, Pit looks alot like Roy with wings.

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SSBB Master said:

I heard that the maximum characters for this game would be 30-40. Also Sakurai said there would be 2-3 more 3rd party characters NOT including Snake.

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greatqueenfan said:

No! SEGA owns Sonic!

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Mr. Nintendo said:

Is it just me or should this game have a chain chomp character? Anyone who agrees?

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Ja-Mez said:

I'd love to see Black Doom as a character. Jeez this is almost like talking on MSN!

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Kirby Freak said:

Meta-knight is gonna kick ass.

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Sark900 said:

I think they should have Dyna blade as a sub-boss.

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Someone cooler than you said:

I swear, why does everyone want Sonic? Seriously! Ok, you know what?! Lets add Tom Nook! A: Punch. A+Left/Right: Running Punch. A+Up: Upward Punch. A+Down: Downward Punch. B: Standing Kick. B+Left/Right: Running Kick. B+Up: Kinda Higher Kick. B+Down: Low Kick. X: Hop. X+A: Hopping Punch. X=B: Hopping Kick. Doesn't that sound great?! Let's add him! Since I figured out what his moves are, the programmers are guaranteed to add him! Now come on, I'm surprised no one wants more characters like Zero-Suit Samus, or cool classic characters like Wart from SMB2! Let's get a bit more creative!

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king of the shark's said:

You know this maybe off topic but one time long ago I had a dream that the gorillaz were in ssbm. If you think that's a weird dream, one time I dreamed of sonic fighting zombies.

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segaloyal said:

I would absolutely die to see Sonic characters in this game. I would also like to see new costumes like for Samus I would like to see zero helmet Samus and cooler suits, such as the phazon and the dark suit.

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go sonic said:

Go to hell Somebody cooler than you, you're just jealous because Sonic would be a kick ass fighter.

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Ja-Mez said:

Maybe they might introduce Pikmin characters like Captain Olimar and Louey. Mr Nintendo, have you noticed that most characters have legs?

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Fishmon said:

We need more rival battles, e.g Mario vs Bowser, Link vs Ganondorf and Kirby vs Metaknight. For instance, Yoshi vs Kamek, DK vs King K Rool, Kirby vs King Dedede (also), Samus vs Ridley, Mewtwo vs Mew maybe? Something like that would be awesome. Aww come on! No one's commented my volvagia stage idea! Hey, maybe there could be a bongo bongo stage from zelda oot. You'd be on a giant drum about the size of final destination. Every once in a while bongo bongo would appear and bang on the drum with his hands. It doesn't hit you but the drum bounces you in the air! And there could be that acid below the stage (if I remember correctly) like in Samus's stage but it wouldn't move. It would just hurt you when you fall off.

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ss4luigi12 said:

I like the sora and riku idea but I would like them better if they were in the kingdom hearts 2 clothes, they look like such better fighters and plus it would be awesome to use a keyblade. It would be sweet if they had drive mode for sora lol.

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king of the shark's said:

What is wrong with you people? Isn't Snake enough? Remember it's a Nintendo game, not a crazy all-console fighting game! Get it through your thick skulls.

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Flamic said:

Greatqueenfan Sega does own Sonic that's correct, they obviously have the majority of rights to him. After that would be Nintendo, we were only talking about Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo.

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SSBB Master said:

Hey Fishmon, I like your idea but those stages are from Ocarina of Time. It should be stages from Twilight Princess. And we shouldn't talk about characters that can't be in this game! The only reason Snake is in this game is because Kojima "begged" for Snake. Now there is a little chance Sonic will appear but like I said before the maximum 3rd party characters is 1-2. If we're gonna talk about characters how about talking about Nintendo characters? Also let's talk about items, stages, 1 player mode etc.

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greatqueenfan said:

The Sonic ownership works like this: 50% SOA/E and 50% SOJ.

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kahfkdahk said:

Enough of Sonic, how about some Crash? At least he was on a system that people actually played.

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king of the shark's said:

I think it should have Tom Nook, Waluigi, Riachu, Mew, King Dedede , Andross and Shyguy. For stages I think it should have Mario's underground level, Yoshi's big baby bowser fight level, Andross's lair, a Warioware minigame level and the Wii system level. I pray to god they don't remove the ice climbers.

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Someone cooler than you said:

Why in god's name would I be jealous of a character in a fighting game? That doesn't even make sense! I've heard better insults from a turkey sandwich! And turkey sandwiches are very frendly! So in conclusion, YOU are the one that should be going to hell. And here is an idea for a new mode: race mode! You race to the finish and beat up the other guys to slow them down!

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Fishmon said:

What about a planet from Super Mario Galaxy? Asteroids could hit you and stuff.

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Hino said:

People are all going crazy over 3rd party characters now. Snake's only in there since the Konami dude practically begged to have Snake in SSBB.

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SSBB Master said:

Right you are Hino. Like I said BEFORE the maximum 3rd party character is 1-2 so stop posting so many 3rd party characters!

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Fishmon said:

Actually it's 2-3 3rd party chars. They said that there's going to be 1-2 more EXCLUDING SNAKE! So it's 2-3 including Snake. This would take forever to make, but wouldn't it be awesome if each character had their own adventure mode? Or at least every character group. Mushroom Kingdom chars would go through a bunch of Mushroom Kingdom levels, Hylian chars could travel Hyrule, Metroid chars could go through a bunch of Metroid game levels etc. Comments?

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MAZ said:

I can't wait for this game, it's going to be better than the one one GameCube!

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ATrueNightmare said:

I seriously think that Ganondorf's super move should be him either turning into Ganon from Ocarina of Time OR he flies up into the air and fires tons of energy bolts. I hope that all the characters from SSBM are in SSBB because if they weren't then that would suck. Also SSB on N64 had 8 characters and 4 secret characters for a total of 12. In SSBM there are more than twice that. So I'm guessing there will be a lot of new characters. Wii is the best next-generation system without a doubt! If you disagree I'll hunt you down and kill you for being too stupid to deserve life.

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SSBB Master said:

Your ideas are cool Fishmon, but who would be the boss? Giga Bowser? I also like your stage idea except most are from LoZ OoT. If Sakurai is going to put 30-40 characters, then he shouldn't remove any characters but he might. Anyway does anyone else have any stage or item ideas?

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ds said:

Someone cooler than you should be shot for saying something messed up like that. Dude, all the times Tails and Knuckles had to spend with Sonic and they don't get crap.

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Dory said:

I mean Sonic advance 1-3, Sonic pinball, Sonic battle and Sonic Rush. Team Sonic should be in this.

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Ja-Mez said:

I just found out characters who are definitely gonna be in this game: Sonic because Sega and Nintendo are good friends now, PacMan from Namco, Bomber Man, Megaman from Capcom and Prince of Persia from PS2! It's all true, go to Google and then images, type in super smash bros brawl characters. It pops up with Sonic, Pacman and Bomberman. Click on Sonic or Pacman, Bomberman goes somewhere else.

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Ja-Mez said:

I like Fishmon's idea. I know the perfect Sonic stage, Ice Cap Zone. It was my fave stage and it had the best music which compelled me to make a remix of it. Also Marble Zone or Scrap Brain Zone would be good too.

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Ja-Mez said:

Hey I just read somewhere that Shadow and Knuckles might be unlockable characters with Tails and Sonic as starters! And I swear, if we have to unlock Jigglypuff again...

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Ja-Mez said:

I wonder if you'll be able to select music from other stages to put it on another, for example Roy's music on the final destination stage.

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RickyRex said:

It's gonna be sweet. Too bad they won't be using the WII-MOTE. But oh well. Sonic will probably be in this game, that would satisfy a large audience. It's good to hear they are going 3rd party, but bad also. It is becoming less of Super Smash Bros and more of an Ultimate Videogame Fun Death Match game. But it will be awesome, no doubt. Can't wait to get it, it will rock my world.

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Ja-Mez said:

Someone cooler than you, you need to put the characters moves in better detail. I mean any character could do an upward punch, and don't copy my idea! By the way, who the hell is Tom Nook?

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Ja-Mez said:

I watched this film that I think is the starting movie of SSBB and it shows Mario, Link, Pikachu and Kirby at the start. They sort of power up and their graphics become way better, except for Kirby, he gets a little pissed. Then it shows em fighting on the Meta-Knight stage and then the ship opens and Meta-Knight is on top. Then he fights with em and Pit shoots an angel arrow from the sky, Meta knight blocks it with his cape, they fight then Samus shoots this big blast and the force of it breaks her suit, she fights. Then Wario comes on his motorbike and farts in everyones face with his Wario Waft. Then Snake is talking to his commander and he tells him that he's invited to SSBB. He already happens to be there hiding under a box, then he jumps out in front of Mario and Link and says "It's showtime".

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Ja-Mez said:

The real downer about SSBB is that it's released in 2007. That's what I hate, finding out about a mad ass game and you have to wait half a freaking year for it to come out.

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SSBB Master said:

Hey Ja-mez, I went to google and when I clicked Sonic it was just a list of characters they WISH to see! Read carefully. Also there can only be 1-2 more 3rd party characters excluding Snake! Sonic and Tails as starters are just rumors! I won't believe it unless I see it on the ACTUAL SITE, Super Smash bros Dojo. Other sites are just trying to trick us!

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Ja-Mez said:

I don't care how many characters there are, as long as there are over 26 I'm good. And I agree with RickyRex about Sonic pleasing a large audience, because I'm part of that audience.

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Ja-Mez said:

Hey Nintendo! If some characters have the same fighting style like C. Falcon and Ganondorf, change them please? I hate players with the same style.

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krnxboi012 said:

HOLY CRAP this list is long. I believe super smash bros melee is the most antcipated game for the Nintendo platform. It's gonna be awesome because of the Wii's ability to connect to the net where you can battle your friends from the comfort of your own home. Plus mastering the characters all over again with the new setup of the Nintendo Wii would surely make this game for all people. Might be one of the video game legends.

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Mr. Sakurai said:

Hi guys, I know you are all psyched up about this new game but I'm very sorry to say that it is postponed to 2008.

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SSBB Master said:

Don't worry Ja-mez, like I said before, all the clones like Ganondorf and Dr. Mario will have different movesets. I hope Ganondorf will use his sword.

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your mom said:

Yay I kicked butt on super smash bros since I was 5. Samus is one HOT chick. Sonic, Knuckles, Tails are all cool but sadly they aren't on the game.

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Someone Cooler Than You said:

To ds: Tails and Knuckles don't get crap because they already are crap, so it would be pointless. Ja-Mez: You didn't "Find out" that those characters are definitely going to be in the game! And I doubt those are real pictures. If they WERE, they would be on every SSBB site, including this page. And just because you read something somewhere, doesn't mean it's true. Watch this: "The great wall of China is made out of swiss cheese". You read it. That must mean it's true! (end sarcasm). And that Tom Nook character move set was a joke. By the way, Tom Nook is a racoon in Animal Crossing Wild World that runs the town store. And that "film" you watched is not the starting film for the game. It's the preview shown at E3, and so far it's the only official video of SSBB.

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Someone Cooler Than You said:

Hey, one thing that needs to stop happening is people posting rumors as facts. Unless you have pictures and/or game footage proving it, don't say it's true! By the way, there's over 200 posts here now!

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SSBB Master said:

I agree with SCTY. Start posting something, anything but rumors! And Mr. Sakurai, you're not the real Sakurai and I have proof. If it really is postponed then this news would be on the real site and other game sites.

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Someone Cooler Than You said:

Oh great. Not only are people pretending to be video game characters, but now "Mr. Sakurai" over there is pretending to be the guy who makes the game!

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Halo god said:

Master Chief is the only character I need.

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lawlopp said:

I don't think 'Master Chief' will be in it n00b.

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Someone Cooler Than You said:

Hey, if there's Master Hand, then Master Chief has a chance!

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Ja-Mez said:

My idiotic friend Jake is Mr Sakurai. I told him he was being stupid.

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Fishmon said:

Microsoft and Nintendo are fierce rivals so Master Chief is not gonna be in.

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Jake (Not Ja-Mez's friend) said:

Honestly, I hope to GOD this game is gonna be so much better than the last Super Smash Bros game. I'm sorry, but the last game was a HUGE disappointment for me. I'm sorry and forgive me if I sound too picky and what say you, but in my personal opinion, I want to see a cutscene when someone is doing a huge attack. Like, the new item that everyone does their greatest attack, I think there should be a huge graphical cutscene to where they are preparing the attack and they actually shoot it. Then it gets back to regular gameplay, kind of like Mario Tennis to where you would see a short cutscene on character attacks and stuff, THAT IS WHAT I WANT! I was expecting big graphical advances in Super Smash Brother Melee, unfortunately I see the same type of format used in the N64 version. Don't get me wrong, the backgrounds were good and so was everything else. I just think, especially with Wii, they better show at least games using Wii's highest potential. If not this game, then at least do it on Twilight Princess, that's all I'm saying. Plus, I think that one unlockable character has to be a Mario related character.

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Koen van Beeck said:

SCTY, that is the most ridiculous logic I've ever seen.

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Michael said:

I see in one of the pics there is Solid Snake, has he moved from playstation and come to the real home of games? Hope Nintendo do bring out Snake games.

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Austin said:

It would be cool if you could be Ganandorf's 2nd form from The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time!

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no sonic said:

Nintendo hates Sega.

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Someone Cooler Than You said:

To Jake (Not Ja-Mez's friend): Congratulations. You just proved you're as dumb as your not-friend. Basically, your post says: "I hate Smash Bros because the graphics aren't pretty enough and there isn't a cutscene every five seconds!". You only care about graphics and cutscenes? Go rent a movie and leave us real fans alone!

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SaMuSFREAK!! said:

I like Zero Suit Samus, her breasts are huge.

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Flamic said:

Nintendo does not hate Sega, they are best pals. But it's not Nintendo's descision if Sonic is in Smash Bros, it's SEGA's.

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king of the shark's said:

SaMuSFREAK!! you're a pervert.

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kiki itachi said:

So are there any girl gamers here?

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Mud said:

There is no way in hell Master Chief will be in it, there is a large chance Sonic will be in it.

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some guy said:

I hope King K Rool is in it, that would rock! Or Diddy Kong! Man I want a Wii so bad now! That game's gonna sell out instantly. Go to the Super Smash Bros Brawl official website, it's awesome.

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some guy said:

I hope there are xbox people in the game. It would be awesome if you could be Mario with Fludd!

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1 up Mushroom said:

I don't know, are you a girl kiki itachi? Yeah you must be, your name sounds like a girl. The rest here are guys, right?

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Ja-Mez said:

To the Jake that is not my friend: There is an item that lets the characters use their best move and Nintendo isn't trying to focus on better graphics this time, they're focusing on better gameplay.

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kiki itachi said:

No I'm not a girl gamer, dork.

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king of the shark's said:

My mom plays Burnout Revenge.

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Killer Ape said:

Well you are right SaMuSFREAK, she does have huge breasts. Anyway like mud said Sonic would be in it and it would be SWEET! They should have Ridley in it. Oh yea I forgot Toad!

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Ja-Mez said:

Absolutely no women here. I wish they would upload more screenshots.

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Killer Ape said:

It would be sweet if Conker could be in it. He would have an attack where he throws poop!

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whotolducouldeatmycookies said:

This game will be awesome. I'm really hoping they will put Oni Link in as a playable character. That'd add to the awesomeness!

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Killer Ape said:

I hope Roy and Marth will be in brawl because they're awesome.

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Ja-Mez said:

Imagine they had Mr Do with his big hammer or those guys from Dig Dug. What classics! Oh and by the way, Killer Ape said I could eat your cookies.

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segaloyal said:

You all are idiots Master Chief isn't on a Nintendo system so he isn't going to be in it. Sonic and Megaman are most likely the third party characters but I'd rather see Shadow than Sonic.

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KillerHonke said:

This game is gonna be friggin sweet! Conker, Sonic, Banjo-Kazooie, Diddy Kong, Cpt Olimar, Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden, Knuckles, Tails, Sunshine Mario, Vacuum Luigi and some others. Also, recently Sakurai (the developer) said on a radio talk show that ice climbers, game and watch, and young link would be taken out. But in their places will be Ridley from metroid, Bowser Jr. and Wind Waker Link. Also he said there will be 2-3 more third party characters aside from Snake and he wants to include 30-40 characters. Finally, he said he will incorporate a more robust single player mode. This game is gonna be amazing!

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Keayu_the_Keaton said:

Hey I'm a girl. I think also Keaton should appear, at least as an item or something.

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Killer Ape said:

*RUMOR* *RUMOR*! I heard this rumor that Ubisoft game characters are going to be in brawl. Rayman, Prince (from Prince of Persia), Jade (from Beyond Good and Evil) and Sam Fisher. This might not be true but it's a rumor. But besides that what about SONIC! Nintendo and Sega are really close and everyone wants Sonic in it.

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SSBB Master said:

I hate rumors but I hate it more when someone starts rumors. Yay a girl and for some reason, this discussion about girl gamers reminds me of my ex-girlfriend.

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Killer Ape said:

If Wario is going to be in it they should have someone from Warioware like Jimmy T or that alien dude with the spiky boots.

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Kool Kid said:

Man this game looks so awesome I can't wait to buy it! I hope Princess Daisy is a playable character.

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MarcMan said:

Man, this game is going to be crazy! Poo from Earthbound and Shadow would be really cool, I honestly think they need to put more baddies in. As of now, Ganondorf, Bowser and Meta-Knight are the only ones but it would be cool if they put King K Rool, Ridley from Metroid or King Dedede. And an Animal Crossing item, like a fishing pole or something haha.

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kiki itachi said:

Wait I always thought Meta Knight was a good guy, and I think they should have more playable Pokemon characters like Mew and Groudon.

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Killer Ape said:

There's a game for the Wii called Bonk's Adventure I saw on this website. Does that mean Bonk is going to be in Super Smash Bros Brawl?

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Ja-Mez said:

I agree with Segaloyal that Xbox master is an idiot but I disagree the fact that Shadow will be in SSBB instead of Sonic. Never put someone into a game like this if they're not the main character. I like Killeerhonkes rumors, if they were true that would be awesome. And no, Meta Knight is not a good guy and how would you use a giant Groudon on a smaller arena? Mew would be stupid being the same as Mewtwo except pink and small kiki itachi. If anything, Groudon would come out of a Pokeball. And I doubt that they will put Bonk in this game, hardly anyone knows who he is. Conker's a good idea, but Princess Daisy is a stupid idea! She would have the same fighting style as Peach. Maybe not the same moves, but twin sisters, I hate players with the same fighting style! Mario and Luigi are ok, they're Nintendo biggies and have a few different moves, but C. Falcon and Ganondorf, Fox and Falco, Pikachu and Pichu, Roy and Marth, Link and Young Link (And possibly wind waker Link). And MarcMan, you haven't realised that Wario is also an enemy and Mewtwo. Pikachu can be an enemy too because Pokemon battle in Pokemon battles (L0L).

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Someone Cooler Than You said:

KillerHonke, that is SO fake. If it's real, show us some damn proof! And those are terrible characters! Luigi's vaccum and Mario's FLUDD would be items, if in the game at all. And why would the producer remove characters? Ice Climbers and G&W are staying. They are ADDING characters, not REMOVING them. So there.

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Killer Ape said:

Hey someone cooler then you (not), the part Killerhonke said about vacuum Luigi and sunshine Mario, he just wants them to be in it. The other stuff about taking out ice climbers, game & watch and young link is a rumor.

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Killer Ape said:

After brawl comes out they should make a super smash bros ds. They would have some character from melee, some character from brawl (when it comes out) and new characters that we never saw in a super smash bros game.

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Schkauffel said:

If you didn't know or if you did know, I just wanted to inform that there are newcomers: Isaac, Ridley,Baby Bowser, Waluigi, Wind Waker Link, Dark Samus, Lion Scott Kenedy, Dante, Cadpig and Lucky.

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wiisel said:

They should put Spawn in it totally and Nightmare. Forget Sonic, hell put a balrog in there. But scrap the stupid pokemon.

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king of the shark's said:

Hey I just got a idea what if Kirby sucks someone and does their special move. I agree with kiki itachi, they should have more playable pokemon.

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Omniferous said:

I doubt there will be a lot of 3rd party characters like Sonic etc. I'd like to see Boo though and I'm not sure we need any more FE characters than Marth and Roy, though I'd like em. Pit will own. Some of these characters will probably be less known characters from really old games (example: Pit, Ice Climbers, Mr Game and Watch). We might even see characters like Toad and Daisy. I'm hoping for but not expecting Banjo-Kazooie, two of my favorite characters from the N64.

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king of the shark's said:

Well if Meta Knight is a bad guy then why did he give his sword to Kirby in the amazing mirror?

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TehB0n5lyK1n9 said:

Meta Knight is neutral. I find him more the help character, with a bit of "secret boss" mixed in. More like bass in megaman BN or mewtwo in pokemon, than complete and utter villain. And we need the pokemon like deoxys or charizard. Charizard's always good. Can't forget charizard. Hmm. Maybe claydol. Lasers go bzzt. Losers go B00M.

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link2009 said:

I can't wait for ssbb to come out. I'm gonna run the online gaming of it, noone is gonna beat me!

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Omniferous said:

Meta Knight is Kirby's father if I remember right and he wears that mask over his face. He's blue. I could be wrong on my first statement, but it's my theory.

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baker legate said:

I hope they get rid of a bunch of the unlockable characters in ssbm because a bunch of them sucked: Falco, Ice climbers, Young link, Pichu, Dr Mario. And I really love this guy he's my favorite thing in gaming but he just wasn't fit for SSB, goodbye Mr Game and Watch. The creator of SSB said that he's getting rid of all the secret characters that were in SSBM except for Luigi and Jigglypuff. I hate Jigglypuff.

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SSBB Master said:

Please provide some proof baker legate. I doubt he will get rid of that many characters.

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kiki itachi said:

Meta Knight is a bad ass, I will be playing as him a lot.

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Craver531 said:

I know some of those characters rocked like Roy, Marth, Ganondorf, Young Link (only because Up+B move kept the enemies inside the strike and then let them out in a final blow), Mewtwo. I also heard that if you get 20 kills on cruel melee in the multi man melee thing when you have every character (including unlockable), you get to fight Sonic and Tails from sega at the same time, and if you win the battle Sonic and Tails fill up the corners on the bottom row. If anyone happens to do that or if you've already done it please tell me if it's real or not.

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'Cooler Than You said:

As I said before, he is going to ADD characters. Pray tell, who told you that "fact"? And to Onmiferous, I think Kirby and Meta Knight might be brothers. I haven't watched the show in a while, so I might be wrong.

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Ja-Mez said:

Hey I agree with TehB0n5lyK1n9 about Deoxys. But maybe not Charizard. I doubt Pokemon that come out of a Pokeball as an item, will become playable. Deoxys would be mad. And if Megaman is in this, I'm hoping for ElecMan. Not the midget one from Megaman Powered up the game, but the cartoon series where he has those cool lightning rods on his back and all that.

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Killer Ape said:

Cooler than you he is going to add and TAKE out some characters. I heard this rumor that he's taking out Game and watch, Young Link and Ice Climbers. Good thing he is, they should be out.

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KillerHonke said:

Hey you know what "someone cooler than you", maybe you should research it a little bit before you state your facts. I have actually read a bunch of articles in a variety of websites. Check out a couple of other websites because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

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kiki itachi said:

I think in Mario Hoops they're putting Final Fantasy guys, so maybe they're putting them in this game too.

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Chuf said:

I really hope there are no more Pokemon. I don't even like 5. Mewtwo was alright, but Pichu and Jigglypuff are useless. At least in the first game Jigglypuff's lullaby did something, but it's useless in melee. I do like its rollout attack though. I am so glad there are no clones, but I disagree with baker lagate. Ice climbers sucked, and Dr. Mario wasn't great (Luigi is close enough to Mario). I don't mind the new characters except Snake. He's cool, but he doesn't really fit in. What's he going to do, snap Mario's neck and put Link in the sleeper hold? But I guess the more characters the better, especially for internet battles.

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kiki itachi said:

Even if I didn't play any of his games, I think Bomberman would be cool. And I think a burnout crash party stage would be good to fight in.

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'Cooler Than You said:

Killer Ape: If anything he would take out the clones, not the original characters. KillerHonke: I'm pretty sure it's a fact that characters will be added.

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Baby bowser said:

This is awesome Wario's gonna be in it. That's tight!

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SSBB Master said:

No you're both wrong, the clones will be given new movesets.

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Family Robot said:

I hope Bowser Jr is NOT in it. I hate him and want him to die.

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Tony said:

I wonder what new items will come up. *Has idea* Wind waker Link could use the command melody to take control of bob-ombs and have them fly around the screen creating fiery death. I'm so excited ^_^.

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SSBB Master said:

If you guys think Bowser Jr, WW Link and Ridley will be SSBB, you're all wrong. Just because it says it on other sites doesn't mean it's true. It's all rumors. It is only true if it says it on the OFFICIAL SITE. So stop believing other sites.

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'Cooler Than You said:

Now here's a fact: On a Japanese blog apparently run by a programmer for Super Smash Bros Brawl, they've released two new secrets about Super Smash Bros Brawl. One of the secrets are that each level will feature destructible terrain that will burn, blow up or even crumble away. The second secret is that characters will be customizable. Each character will have an array of new moves which you can assign and adjust including speed and power statistics, and even the ability to customise costumes. It is still unknown as to whether or not this will be included for online play, but it would be an awesome feature if it is.

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Killer Ape said:

Cooler than you he is taking out some characters. Like that rumor that he's taking out young link, ice climbers and game and watch, I think it's true. No one was those characters.

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quartzlcc said:

I hope Sonic and Tails will be in it. That'd be awesome. I'd so buy it. Though I might buy it anyway because Meta Knight is awesome.

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Family Robot said:

I would dislike the new Final Fantasy characters. The characters from the first one (BlMage etc) I wouldn't mind.

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ihatedama430 said:

Here's my thought. Since Metal Gear got its start from the NES, he got the nod to be in the game. That means that other now non-Nintendo characters that got their start from a Nintendo console could also make appearances. As much as I'd love to see Sonic and company in the game, I don't think it'll happen. Here's hoping they prove me wrong.

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the Rad Red Echidna said:

If this Sony character Snake is in the game then Sonic, Tails AND Knuckles who are Sega characters and with which Sega actually makes games for Nintendo consoles, they deserve to be in the game too. I mean, I want a refund if they're not in it!

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'Cooler Than You said:

Killer Ape, I use (and win with) Game & Watch. Don't mess with G&W. I swear, if G&W is taken out and Sonic is put in... well, something will happen. Something bad.

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wiikid said:

Hey if they add Sora and Riku, why not Donald and Goofy?

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Darkness said:

I hope Dark Link is in it.

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Lord Xenu said:

I think they should stick to more of Nintendo blooded characters. I know Snake is on it, but he did start off with the Nintendo and Final Fantasy has different characters every game if I am thinking correctly. So I wouldn't really like to see any of the FF people in it personally. And to killer ape, I was always mr game and watch, just to piss off my more newbish friends by flipping bacon at them!

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Ja-Mez said:

'Cooler than you is right! Customisable characters would be awesome. Maybe not moves but colour. If Sonic is in it, I'd make him black with green shoes.

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Ja-Mez said:

This is just madness? Get this ok: I went to google images and saw so many characters who the players wanted in the game and I saw: Sonic, Tails, Goku, Vegeta, The evolution of Sneasle from the new Pokemon game coming out, MasterChief, Bomberman, Shadow and get this, some sicko thought that Hello Kitty would be in it. What a dummy!

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I like Nintendo said:

Ok, why is everyone so pissed off about the Sonic thing? I'm not on his side but still there's no point in arguing. If Nintendo puts Sonic in then what are you gonna do? We just gotta wait and see. And the make your own character thing would have major flaws. First off, the original concept of super smash bros was to fight with characters that everyone loved, both a button mash and not at the same time. Doing that would be a rip of Soul Caliber and would hurt the game I think.

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tom said:

I hope they put Megaman in it, that would be sweet but that's just my opinion. I also think they should bring back all the SSBM characters.

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kiki itachi said:

I think Game & Watch should be 3d, it's just a thought.

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smash bros fan said:

Can you play this on a gamecube? Because I am not buying another console just to play this game.

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SpineyPlantManThingy said:

I think they should put in Petey Piranha.

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SSBB Master said:

Would you trust a blog Cooler than you? To smash bros fan, no you can't. But you can play this game with a gamecube controller.

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Killer Ape said:

Cooler than you I don't care if you are good with Game and watch, mostly no one was him. He was the gayest character. I mean who would have a sausage attack?

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Cooler Than You said:

To kiki itachi: Nice idea, but Game & Watch wouldn't be Game & Watch if he wasn't 2-d. Killer Ape: you are wrong. And, you know what kind of character has a sausage attack? A character that will be in SSBB and beat the living snot out of Sonic! I hope your favorite character isn't in brawl.

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Killer Ape said:

Cooler than you my favorite character is Link, so if you don't want my faveorite character to be in it then Link won't be in it.

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M!! said:

There better be more new characters because from regular to melee we got like +20!

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Chuf said:

SpineyPlantManThing, I hope you are joking. If I see Petey Piranha in another game, I will never forgive Nintendo. It's a good thing you didn't get a walking Piranha Plant as a partner in TTYD.

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Faust the demon said:

All Super smash bros melee characters and newcomers, plus Waluigi, Sonic, Shadow, Knukles, Rayman, Globox, Geno, Mallow, Sora, Shinobi, Chrono and Twinsen (ever playd LBA relentless?). That would be LOL.

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl said:

Rouge the Bat would make a cool character and Princess Daisy. Fighting games needs more GIRLS! GIRLS ARE TOUGH! GOT IT!? GRRRRRRRRRRRL POWER!

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random hero said:

Cooler than you it has been officially announced that they are taking out Mr Game & Watch - sorry!

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl said:

Amy Rose could totally kick butt on this new game (so could Princess Daisy). GIRL POWER! Girls will kick the boys' butt HARD!

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Ja-Mez said:

Well Grrrrrrrrrrrrl, if there's one thing I know Nintendo won't do, it's create characters with the same fighting style. Amy would totally copy Sonic and Princess Daisy would be Peach with a yellow dress, brown hair and a blue crown. I hate characters with the same style fighting, I really like learning each character's different abilities as a fighter. Sure, Mario and Luigi are ok, they're Nintendo's icons and they're brothers. When I went to EB Games at Airport West I noticed someone on the banner of super smash brawl: it had Mario, Link, Zero Suit Samus and what looked like a teenager girl with blue hair and a white dress with pink lines. And I also think that the secret characters should have ?'s in a block. It's good to be surprised but when I couldn't figure out how to unlock Pichu, I practically thought it was a rumor and gave up trying.

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Killer Ape said:

Hey see Cooler than you, even Random hero says Game and Watch isn't going to be in it, hahaha.

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bdz said:

I want to see the penguins from binary (nes, nola and something with a g). Bomberman, vaati, paula, jeff, poo, pac-man, marin and starman.

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Hey said:

Maybe Master Chief from the Halo series should show up and use that laser sword thingy he has instead of guns, because it's a Nintendo game.

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random hero said:

So did Nintendo :(. I thought he was good.

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Killer Ape said:

Master chief would not be in Super smash bros brawl because Halo never had a game on a Nintendo syetem.

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wii thing said:

Maybe Dark Jak from the Jak games should show up.

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supersmashboy said:

Pac Man scares me!

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KillerHonke said:

What are you talking about Cooler than you? Of course he's adding characters, I know that. Don't change the subject because you know I'm right and you're wrong. Oh and for the record, Game & Watch is the stupidest character besides Dr Mario. Oh and that stuff you're saying about destructable terrain and customization of characters? Yea I read that too and that's just a rumor. What I wrote before about Bowser jr, Zelda and Ridley was said by Sakurai's (the creator) own voice on a French radio talk show. Whatup Killer Ape?

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl said:

This game does not need Shadow the Hedgehog! Shadow stinks, no I mean Shadow is LAME. It is so stupid you guys like Shadow. So you know Ja-Mez, girls never get respect when it comes to fighting. Girls will fight and will rule this fighting game. Daisy, Amy Rose & Rouge would kick butt! I want Pac-Man to fight in this game. Bomberman should be in it too! This game needs SUPER BOMB POWER (SBP). Pac-Man should eat the other characters!

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bdz said:

I wish Mr Game and Watch and Ice climbers would stay in it.

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bdz said:

Sorry ja-mez, but on the producers website they said they're removing ice climbers and mr. game & watch. Ironically they were my favorite characters.

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Mona said:

How come I can't be on this game!? They love me more than Wario!

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The Real Wario said:

To all my fans who are buying this game, I promise to KICK BUTT HARD! Mona is jealous of me! When you chumps buy this game, you better play as me or else! MUHAHAHA! I'm taking the money from this game!

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Killer Ape said:

Wii thing, Dark Jak would not be in it because Jak games were never on a nintendo system. And bomberman: NO! I hate bomberman. Finally sup Killer Honke.

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Hey said:

Funnily enough Grrrrrrrrrrrrrl, the creator of Pacman intended his game for girls.

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Ja-Mez said:

Well Grrrrrrrrrrrl! Why don't you just get Nintendo to chuck in Mrs Pacman? Maybe even Plum from Mario golf and.. and... err... See this is what I mean! There are hardly any girls in the Nintendo games! Metroid was a breakthrough by using a woman. Anyway to BDZ: I didn't say anything about Ice Climbers and G&W! What are you smoking?

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Killer Ape said:

See Grrrrrrrrrrrrrl everyone's against you. All you talk about is girls in fighting games. Why don't you just play your barbie dreamland the video game and get on with your life.

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KillerHonke said:

Haha what the heck is up with you and bomberman killerape?! He would be a sweet character and you know it. Life's aight I guess, you? Well when this comes out I'm gonna beat everyone haha, even you killer ape. Not that I can't beat you now in melee lol.

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wii thing said:

Yeah SSBB master I'll play you online and I'm probably gonna lose.

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Saria said:

I hope that Wind Waker Link, Wind Waker Ganondorf and Boo are going to be in it. Boo could use moves similar to Kirby.

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SSBB Soldier said:

Listen up Mr. Cooler than you. I believe you're right they are not removing anyone especally Mr. Game & Watch, but I also believe Sonic the hedgehog will put up a new challenge for me so please stop ruining everybody's good time. Thank you.

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Luke said:

The last time I played SSB was on the N64. That game was awesome! I can't wait to get this one!

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Riley said:

I think Knukles should be in smash bros as well as Sonic. Even though he's not as popular as Tails he would actually have some moves, like for instance his B attack would be a charge up punch like Donkey Kong's. His B^ would be a jump punch similar to the Mario brothers. His B down would be a drill drive like Yoshi and Bowser's and his B sideways would be a short charge up attack for his gliding, kinda like Pikachu or Luigi's skull bash. But unlike those guys he would stay in the air longer and be able to climb up walls for a short time.

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Killer Ape said:

You think you're funny. I'll beat everyone at brawl. Yea Killerhonke I bet I can beat you at melee with Marth lol.

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Hey said:

There's no need to get stereotypical Killer Ape. And Grrrrrrrrl, we never said anything about girls in the first place, so it is rather unnecessary to bring up a subject like that. But yeah, Pacman would be really cool to play as.

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Ja-Mez said:

Ey let me know, Luke Capitelli is it? It's James, Jake's friend. Well if you are him, HOW COULD YOU NOT'VE PLAYED MELEE? Who considers themselves a true blue player by playing both games, unlocking all characters and collecting 20 less trophies than 290 (i have 270) Well? And I would get the rest but my bro destroyed my controller (He opened it with a screwdriver and accidently cut a wire) and snapped off his own joystick! (L0L Joystick). And they don't make GameCube controls any more because of the release of WII. So playing Brawl will be a huge relief for me. By the way Luke if you are the one who lives across the road from Jake, by the time you read this I'm at Christian's. And good luck in China! (No he is not chinese but maybe he might get some more info for Brawl since China is close to Japan). I bags Fox and Roy!

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Riley said:

I'm back with a moveset for Bowser jr. His B would be a regular paint throw attack. His B^ would be that same B^ Bowser has. His B sideways would make him able to summon up those sludge things in Super Mario Sunshine and throw them. B down and he would be able to use his paint brush to turn into Shadow Mario. I'm not yet sure what his moveset would be, but I know he would be able to wall kick.

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KillerHonke said:

You're dumb Killerape lmao I swear. You, beat me with Marth? You're out of your mind. And dude, I won't be back till like the 23rd I'm going to Seattle. And Riley, it should actually be Sonic including Tails because Tails is way more diverse than Sonic when it comes to moves. We all know clones are dumb, except for like Ganondorf and Falco, the ones that are probably gonna be remade.

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Wii man said:

What they need for this game is Mario with Fludd (Super Mario Sunshine) and Paper Mario. They can also go with some DK characters such as Diddy or Dixie or even King K. Rool. He could have an attack where he throws his crown like in DK Country for SNES. They could also put some Kirby characters like King Dedede. Think about old Nintendo game characters, that's where the SSBB characters are coming from.

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Ja-Mez said:

To Riley: First time signer right? I like your ideas for Knux's moves but I'm a bit against it. If you read all my entries to this page, you would know how badly I hate characters with the same fighting style! But off that now. If Sonic was in the game, C.Falcon would step down to 2nd in speed. Maybe (if Sonic is in Brawl) he would have to be unlocked by the slowest character Bowser, or even the fastest C. Falcon. I am a bit of a speed demon myself so I always use Fox even though he's second fastest, he has better control and stronger primary attacks and is quite easy to use (despite his quick falling). Other than him, when I'm really into the game (like a tournament against 64 lvl 9's) I be Roy and kick everyone's ass! Seriously, I have been beaten with Fox but not with Roy. To Hey: How do you know that PacMan was intended for girls? To Killer Ape: It's not about who's the best it's... well actually it is. I'd kick your butts so hard you'll fall out of the arena 5 times in 10 seconds! And speaking of Arena, I think Pokemon stadium should be like the one from Pokemon Stadium 2 and the background still changes. To SSBB Master: I realised something, how can you be the master of Brawl if it hasn't even come out yet?

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Ja-Mez said:

I just saw which game the blue haired teen girl is from, the one under Brawl! Super Swing Golf Pangya!

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KillerHonke said:

I just heard that the Wii will come with an Internet browsing program. Some launch games will come with virtual console titles packed in with the game.

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Some Random Person said:

I just want to clear something up with people who keep saying they want to see Sonic, Knuckles and others. They're only going to add 1-2 more 3rd party characters in and they have to be on a Nintendo system before. I highly doubt they will put two Sonic characters in there and waste both 3rd party slots, if they're going to add any Sonic characters it's just going to be Sonic. He's the original, not Tails or Knuckles, not anybody else from the Sonic series. They're most likely going to put Sonic ok, so stop saying stuff about it. It gets annoying after EVERYONE ON THE INTERNET TALKS ABOUT HIM IN THIS GAME! But with the other 3rd party character, I'd like to see Megaman but that's just me.

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random hero said:

Ja-mez, they have been saying to hold onto your old cube controllers to play SSBB haha. So start hunting.

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wii thing said:

I saw a picture of Kirby dressed up as a chef and he was cooking Mario in a pot.

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Riley said:

I just realised what all the new Kirby powers would look like? I mean it'd be pretty funny to see Kirby with long silky blonde hair haha! It would be funny to see Kirby running around with Meta Knight's mask. And Solid-Snake Kirby would have that karate belt over his head. If all Wario Kirby is gonna do is fart I'm gonna be so pissed.

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Ja-Mez said:

Killer Honke is speaking my language! No clones! And as much as I regret it, you're right Random Hero. Ey Riley, for Kirby with Mata-Knights B button technique, make him blue and if he does wear the mask and even spout wings or wear a cape, he'd look almost just like Meta Knight! Some Random Person's right, Sakurai is only gonna add 1-2 more 3rd party characters. Sonic would be the only one from his series if he was in it. But I like your idea of Megaman. Hey if there's 3rd party, what's second and first?

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PHiRE said:

Well first party would be Nintendo themselves. And second party... err, companies owned by or affiliated with Nintendo? Kinda guessing on that one. Maybe there is no second party, I've never heard that term.

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Chuf said:

2nd party developers aren't owned and are completely separate from Nintendo (or Sony, etc), but make games exclusively for that company.

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Some Random Person said:

Well HAL is owned by Nintendo right? Because Super Smash bros is 2nd party.

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ATrueNightmare said:

Okay, absolutely every character from SSBM should remain in Brawl for one simple reason. If they remove them, it will make the people who played that character angry, and instead of removing characters with the same moves just give them different fighting moves. Sonic is a very likely character because of all the rumours and such. That said that he wasn't in SSBM. So it would be much appreciated by many if he was included. Additionally, I believe that Dark Samus, Toad, Waluigi, Diddy Kong, Samari Goroh (or any other F-zero characters), some of the other hunters from Metroid Prime Hunters, the different Links from Majora's Mask and possibly the Prince of Persia for third party characters.

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Cooler Than You said:

Ok, after reading this here is what I have to say: 1) (Kills Killer Ape. How ironic.) 2) I won't believe that G&W is out of the game until someone posts a link that has solid proof that he's gone. 3) I agree with Grrrrrrrrrrrrl, more female characters would be cool. 4) (Re-kills Killer Ape).

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Uforia77 said:

Yay, the next game in the series that allows us to finally take revenge on Mario for stealing all the popularity from Luigi!

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Ja-Mez said:

Thanks PHiRE. I just read the price of Wii games, it's amazing! And to think, people want a 1000 dollar PS3 with over 100 dollar priced games when the Wii is 400 and the games are around 50 bucks! Thank you so much Nintendo!

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WAGNER said:

I think what happens if SSBB has a Resident Evil Character or a Castlevania character or an Eternal Darkness character? I'd like to see Leon Kennedy, Pious Augustus or better Bad Mr Frosty, that would be cool! Also may include a Legendary Pokemon like Mew, Deoxys or Lucario. Or the old characters like Ark from Terranigma or Chrono from Chrono Trigger.

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balletgirl 3.0 said:

They should totally have a Ratchet and Clank vs. Jak and Daxter vs. Sly Cooper and Tak. And you guys have funny names too.

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Killer Ape said:

Balletgirl those characters aren't going to be in that game. Also everyone here has funny names. They're funny! FUNNY!

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some gamer said:

Well there are a lot of characters that would be in the game. I can't imagine what the character select screen would look like and I really hope Sonic is in it or Megaman, but I hope this game doesn't get delayed.

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Riley said:

Actually Ja-Mez, the Wii is going to be no lower than $250 and the ps3 is somewhere around $500-$600.

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Riley said:

I just thought of a great idea for a 3rd party item. You know those powerup capsules in most Sonic games? It could have random effects like if a ring appeared on the capsule it would restore some health. If Eggman's face showed up on it you would lose some life. If the green barrier appeared you would be invincible for some time. If the blue barrier came up it would be like Ness's B down but could absorb physical attacks too, but they can't move when you activate it and it would only be for a few seconds.

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some gamer said:

Wow it's really going to come in Spring. That might be a problem because they only showed it in May, by now they should have told us more about the game, I don't know.

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Ja-Mez said:

Riley has a great idea for the Sonic capsules but how would you lose SOME life if they do damage percentage in SSBM?

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Riley said:

Did I say life, I meant percent. Sorry for the mistake!

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Riley said:

Wait, I meant you would get damage done if Eggman's face showed up. Man, I screw up way too many of my posts!

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wii thing said:

Cloud, Sephiroth and Loz are going to be in this game, I'm serious.

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some gamer said:

Really? Are you sure it's just a rumor.

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SSBB FAN said:

I hope they have Mega Man and Zero.

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Wiikid said:

Wiithing, we would need undeniable proof to believe that Square Enix would allow Nintendo to put Cloud or Sephiroth. It makes no sense to add them, although Sephiroth's long sword would be cool but there'd be no way.

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Killer Ape said:

Err yea sure, Square Enix characters are going to be in it.

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some gamer said:

Maybe, because they have Square Enix characters in Mario Hoops 3-3.

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kareshi is black said:

Why would they put Master Chief in Smash Brawl? The guy is from xbox which is the worst console in my opinion because there is not a lot of anime like games. The guys from FF7 and further can't be in Smash because those characters are for Ps2. So Square Enix characters could be the guys from Kingdom Hearts (chains of memory) and the old Final Fantasy on SNES or Crystal Chronicles (NGC). Well for me the best characters they should put in are SONIC, MEGAMAN (I'm sure it will be de battle network design) and Bomber Man. Well the characters I would hate to see are Crash Bandicot, Master chief and all other anime guys because they wouldn't fit in.

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SSBB FAN said:

There won't be any Final Fantasy characters, it's too many to pick from.

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KillerHonke said:

Actually they don't need more females, they need more villains! There were 3 in melee. We need King K. Rool, Dr. Eggman and some other villains.

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Riley said:

Why would you want Dr.Eggman? Seriously have some vision. What on earth would he do if he was in Brawl, sit on people? If you want to put a Sonic villain put in Metal Sonic or Silver.

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SSBB FAN said:

Metal sonic would be great in SSBB.

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Killer Ape said:

Riley does have a point Brawl doesn't need Eggman. He's too fat plus what would his attacks be?

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kareshi is black said:

They can't put Silver because he is not from any Nintendo games. And Metal Sonic lacks popularity. Dr Eggman would be a good choice because he could be unpredictable with is mechanical invention. He could be like Hercule in DBZ games.

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KillerHonke said:

No, and plus that was just a suggestion. I don't really care about Eggman. Alright fine, how about a Starman from Earthbound, if you've ever played it.

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ganondorfrules said:

Ja-mez if you knew a lot about SSBM see. Falcon isn't the the fastest character. It even says that Fox is the fastest and lightest character in the game on his 3rd trophy that you get when you complete all stars with him.

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ganondorfrules said:

Hey guys just a thought and my opinion maybe King Ashnard, the black knight or Ike could go into SSBB. Or maybe 1 DBZ character because thye originate from Japan and also Nintendo has some share with Atari and also helped create DBZ. Maybe for like an item dragonite would come out of a pokeball and do something cool because he is kind of like a legendary pokemon, him being a dragon and all. But Mr. G&W should be on it, I used him heaps because he had awesome moves. But those people who think that he was the worst character on SSBM were crazy because how could you think that when Dr Mario, Jigglypuff and Pichu suked a lot? And also I think instead of Jigglypuff and Pichu they should bring in Machamp and Gengar, that would be cool. Less pokemon would be good, but I was just thinking of replacing those. No more clones, we want the real thing and I prefer Shadow instead of Sonic honestly. I don't know why, but also he is a villain and most of you want more villains don't you. I hope Waluigi is in it and myabe the Chain chomp can be an item. One last thing those idiots who keep coming on and supporting the PS3 and xbox 360 should go onto their own forum and talk bout their console, not come onto ours and diss.

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SSBB FAN said:

They can't put in Starman almost no one knows who he is.

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Riley said:

They should put King Dedede if you guys want more villains. I know most people find him dumb, but all of the Kirby fans would probably enjoy it.

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KanoMax said:

What about Paula, Jeff and Poo from Earthbound. And DK Jr. And What about Clavat Lilty and Selkie and that other one. Those are the most notable Final Fantasy characters that popped up on an Nintendo System (and nowhere else).

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KanoMax said:

Like Banjo-Kazooie (not seperate, together), Isaac (from Golden Sun), Captain Olimar (Pikmin) and Mach Rider. Man I'd love to beat up characters with Mach Rider!

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some gamer said:

I'm not even sure silver is his name so they can't put him in he's new.

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SSBB FAN said:

I hope they have real music this time not that opera stuff.

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koolkid said:

I think that Sakurai should really put Princess Daisy in SSBB, she can handle it!

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lightchu said:

What are you talking about? Metal Sonic is a very popular character, especially in Japan. This is getting old, start talking about other stuff people!

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KillerHonke said:

Hey kareshi is black, you're right bro. Silver hasn't even been in a game yet, except for the Sonic game that might even come out after SSBB haha. Which villains do you guys think should be in it? Also I think that the witch from Banjo-kazooie should be in it, I forget her name.

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Riley said:

Of course they could put Silver in, the new Sonic game is coming out this fall before brawl. And besides that didn't stop Pikachu. I mean Pokemon was released in 1998 in America and then a year later he was already in Smash bros. On another note I think they should put the main character from Project H.A.M.M.E.R. Only if the game is successful that is.

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SSBB FAN said:

Hey KanoMax, not a lot of people have played Earthbound so anyone other than Ness are characters no one knows about.

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Riley said:

I just thought of the weirdest character for SSBB. You know Slider from the Animal Crossing series? I've thought of a moveset for him. His B attack would be a charge up attack where he would play his guitar and a huge shockwave would come out. His B sideways would be a guitar pick throw. For his his B down attack he would play a lullaby on his guitar and the person close to him would fall asleep. His B up would be an attack where he would spin his guitar around like Link's sword spin. What do you guys think?

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SSBB FAN said:

Also everyone stop posting ideas that will never happen like XBOX and PS3 characters in SSBB.

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Killer Ape said:

That would be dumb if a DBZ character wold be in it because the video game isn't as popular as the TV show.

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ganondorfrules said:

Killerhonke her name is Gruntilda (grunty for short lol) but I highly doubt they are gonna bring her into the game! But I'd like to see Boo in the game.

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SSBB FAN said:

If this game is as cool as i hope it will be, it will help the wii beat the PS3 and XBOX360'S A$$

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SSBB FAN said:

If this game is as cool as i hope it will be, it will help the wii beat the PS3 and XBOX360'S A$$.

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Riley said:

For anyone who got confused on my last post I meant KK Slider, other wise known as Tokeakea. He's the dog in Animal Crossing with the guitar.

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SSBB FAN said:

Hey Riley the Sonic game Silver is in is not going to be on the Wii.

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KillerHonke said:

Hey I just got a pretty sweet idea! I think you should be able to use the wii-mote for playing brawl. I mean not using its motion sensing capabilities and all, but it has more buttons than the Gamecube controller and the number of attacks per character could increase because of the d-pad, which counts as 4 buttons. For the players that used the "y" or "x" buttons in melee to jump, the "up" button on the d-pad could be used for that, while the remaining 3 could be used for the new attacks. Also I still think that Banjo-Kazooie is the best character idea that me and Killer Ape ever thought of haha.

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KanoMax said:

I agree with Banjo-Kazooie. And your other ideas. I think they should consider the DK crew for the game (you know: Diddy, Tiny, Chunky and Lanky. And Dixie too). I never knew why they didn't put Dixie in DK64. And a few of the characters from Diddy Kong Racing. I wouldn't mind that giant pig of a boss to be a final boss character!

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KanoMax said:

What about putting in more Kid Icarus characters? Like a Centurion. And I'd love to see Zeus and Palutena in there fighting. I could see it now. Zeus uses the elements to attack and his Super Smash Attack he could grow SUPER HUGE and release the wrath of Olympus!

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Freeman said:

Remember the pesky Miniblins from Windwaker? Great idea for a hidden character.

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ATrueNightmare said:

Oh and Earthworm Jim! That would be a good character too.

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Killer Ape said:

Kanomax that's a good idea about the DK crew, but not all of them just Diddy and Dixie. That would be cool.

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KillerHonke said:

Yea dude they need way more DK characters or I'm going to be mad. They at least better have Diddy Kong! Yea Earthworm Jim is good, I'll include him in my list haha. I beat Wind waker, but I don't remember the Miniblins, what are they?

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ganondorfrules said:

I'd hate to ruin the party with pokemon things but Fishmon I think mewtwo and mew would be rivals and all but mewtwo's strength is nothing compared to mew's. It may have seemed that they were equal in the movie but in the games they don't match completely, mew snaps mewtwo heaps because mew can learn every single pokemon move there is and why? Because mew was the very first pokemon Nintendo made but they thought it would be stupid to make him a starter so they made him the most powerful. And yes I agree with you about mew and mewtwo but I think mew and celebi would be more the rivals because they can both learn every single move and you can't catch them. You would have to get them scanned into your game which is impossible now and or get them traded to your game from somebody who did get them scanned into theirs. But yea I totally agree with the rival battle idea. If Nintendo does bring in more than 1-2 3rd party members excluding snake of course, I wish to see as a rival battle Sshadow vs Sonic. I hope you sonic fans out there agree, but I'd rather see tails than knuckles to tell the truth. Jigglypuff better not be in this, I hate jigglypuff and I wish the stupid balloon would die and take pichu out and dr mario. With ganondorf I think he should keep the warlock punch move and the dark dive, but change the rest of the moves.

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random hero said:

How come every single Smash Brothers post anywhere on the internet is about what characters every single person wants in? Seriously guys, it's getting old. I haven't seen anything about what levels people want to see, so I want to see the return of Hyrule Castle from SSBM, and I want the tank hangar from MGS.

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im the king said:

Dude this is going to be online and it says if you have a wireless broadband connection you can play right out of the box. So I don't need any wires to connect to the internet is that true?

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kareshi is black said:

I think Diddy Kong could be in the games since he is now from Nintendo. But the other guys like Banjo are from waverare (sorry if it's not the right name) so they would need the ok from them to put him in. And for the other old characters from the NES they could put in the game, they should think carefully because the kids that used to play NES in Japan did not have the same games as the kids in Aamerica. So putting only characters popular in Japan would be weird to us but would still be cool.

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Ja-Mez said:

Speaking of Wind Waker, if Wind Waker Link is in it maybe he could use the control melody to possess stuff like items or players. Or maybe even use the ballad of gales to blow opponents off the screen for a special move? And if they have Wind Waker Link, maybe that giant black and blue ghost that comes to you on the Forsaken Fortress in front of that door? He'd be cool, or maybe even Makar! (L0L). Imagine using a little brown midget with a leaf on his face to kick everyone's ass? And the Miniblins were those wierd goat creatures with that scary laugh.

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KanoMax said:

How's about AiAi and GonGon from Super Monkey Ball? I'd love to see the super smash attack where they go into a ball, grow real big and flatten everyone. And they can summon Baby and use her in the way Peach uses Toad (who by the way should be in also).

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koolshorty said:

They should make Luigi be able to use his poltergust 3000 from Luigi's Mansion, and have Mario be able to use his water thing from Mario Sunshine. That would be so awesome!

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koolshorty said:

I heard somewhere that there might be 40 characters on ssbb, so I'm not worried at all about them running out of ideas. I just want to know what some of these characters are, cause its been forever and they've only confirmed 5 newcomers. Maybe they aren't telling anyone because they want to make people so curious about who's in it that they'll have to buy it!

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mega mario said:

Mario can have all kinds of costumes. For an example: racoon mario, frog suit mario, stone mario, metal mario, shadow mario, mario-fludd, mario on yoshi, wing hat mario.

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some gamer said:

Although I think Giggy and Dixie would be the same.

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MarioMan said:

Ok, let time tell what's going to be in there and what's not.

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SSBB Master said:

Okay, vacation over and time to spend some time on this site. To most of you: Max number for 3rd party characters is 1-3 including Snake, and Sakurai said Sonic in brawl is VERY likely. The last 3rd party character would have to be someone else who is very popular second to Sonic. So please stop posting crazy ideas of characters that can't be on brawl, it's driving me nuts!

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SSBB FAN said:

Okay Marioman I don't want to wait any more, it's burning my brain.

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Vincent Valentine said:

This will suffer from extreme awesomeness on the 10th level! They should put Cloud and Sephiroth on there. I'd like to see Cloud beat the crap out of Wario.

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kareshi is black said:

SSBB Master we all know that a few characters that we name won't be in the game. But still it's only to have fun and dream a little bit before the game gets out, sure some people give totally crazy and mostly characters that won't be in the game but still it's good to see different ideas.

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Riley said:

These are all the people I want to see in brawl ok: K.K. Slider (animal crossing), Skull Kid (legend of zelda), King Dedede (Kirby), Poo (earthbound), Lord Hector(Fire Emblem), Diddy Kong (Donkey Kong), Lucario(pokemon), Sonic and Mega man.

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Riley said:

Another awesome item idea, what do you guys think about a chaos emerald? Pretty awesome idea huh? I'm still deciding on the effect of it so I'll let you guys decide. #1 allows you to teleport anywhere on the field or #2 shoots out a ton of chaos spears rapidly!

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Killer Ape said:

Ok no dumb Super Monkey Ball character would be in it. They would mess it all up. No Cloud and Sephiroth because Final Fantasy 7 was only on the ps1 so not on a Nintendo console. Plus Sephiroth got that long sword and Cloud got the huge sword.

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im the king said:

Leon Kennedy from Resident Evil. His special will be to summon zombies to eat you!

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KanoMax said:

Let's see. Popularity second to Sonic, 3rd party. The only two I could think of (that isn't from Sonic or MGS) would be Pac-Man or Megaman. If they made it 4 third-party characters and put in Sonic, Pacman and Megaman (oh and made 5 way brawls). Then we could have an ultimate battle, Sega vs Nintendo vs Namco vs Capcom vs Konami for the ultimate gaming championships.

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matt said:

I think that Megaman would be an awesome idea. Instead of items he would get battle chips.

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Killer Ape said:

Leon would be dumb. Also why would he summon zombies if is killing them? Megaman would be cool but not Pac-man.

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SSBB FAN said:

Leon would be great but without the summoning zombie idea.

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Riley said:

Come on, no one thought the chaos emeralds are a good idea? And by the way this topic has probably the most posts on this entire website.

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SSBB FAN said:

Well Riley this is going to be a great game so a lot of fans want to talk about it.

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Freeman said:

Miniblins are the little pesky goat-like creatures, climbing the walls and attacking you in great numbers. They carried their little spears around and made that annoying noise the whole time.

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Ace said:

I haven't played Smash Bros Melee. Only got the old N64! So I'm busting for the wii to come out (pun intended). As for Sonic, well no thanks I'll be ok. I thought this was a brawl not a race. I think we need some classic characters like the giant fly from mario paint (SNES) and maybe that crazy Bonk kid with the huge head (SNES).

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Killer Ape said:

Ace we don't need giant fly whoever that is or Bonk. We need 3rd party characters like Sonic.

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SSBB FAN said:

Why would you want a giant fly in a fighting game?

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Riley said:

You'd rather have a fly than Sonic the hedgehog! You're sick in the head you know that right? If you want a classic Mario character put in Birdo. Egg shooting action!

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SSBB FAN said:

I think Duke Nukem would be a cool character for SSBB.

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Killer Ape said:

Yea Birdo would be a good a idea rather than a giant fly.

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WiiFan15 said:

I wouldn't doubt 1 or 2 Ubisoft characters showing up, such as Rayman because Ubisoft has shown strong third-party support for the Wii games-wise. And Nintendo is having gamers vote for which third-party character should be in SSBB. Some popular characters in demand are Sonic, Megaman, Cloud and Sephiroth. Although they are not Nintendo names, I hope Nintendo could manage to get one of them onto SSBB.

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WiiFan15 said:

Square Enix is working with Nintendo on Mario Hoops so there is a possibility of a Final Fantasy character in the game. Most likely not Cloud or Sephiroth though, they would be way too dominating and not fit for a SSBB. It would probably be a black mage. I'm satisfied enough with Pit, add on Metaknight and the others. Gasp! Nintendo has a press conference on Sept 14 in NYC. Can't wait to hear what they say!

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Uforia77 said:

I just had an idea for a stupid extra feature, you can use characters with their original graphics. Like the original Mario and Luigi, even the Ice Climbers!

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ganondorfrules said:

Yea Birdo and Yoshi would be a good team battle don't you think? And I think the chaos emerald is a good idea Riley.

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Riley said:

Finally someone thinks it's a good idea! And I also think Rayman should show up, even though I don't like the guy much it only seems right to put him in. Because Ubisoft is making so many games for wii. Sonic should be in, but it's not Nintendo's decision it's Sega's. I'm going to be really mad if they don't let him join, and besides they have to protect his image; it's not like Sonic to turn down a challenge. Megaman? I'd prefer the old Megaman, you know the one from MM7 not from the crappy television show. Lan is such a dork!

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WiiFan15 said:

I think they should have more villains too so they could have some cool rival matches. DK and King K. Rool, Kirby and King Dedede (even though they have Metaknight), Ridley and Samus. Yea it is Sega's decision but Sega and Nintendo have been friendly lately because they just made Sonic Wild Fire. Plus with all the gamers demanding Sonic there's a good chance he'll be in it.

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Amazon Kevin said:

I'm all against Animal Crossing characters, but I thought of an idea for a cool item. You throw the leaf and then a chair, a desk, or gyroid flies out.

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splintercell4ever said:

Hey guys maybe you should think of actual all-stars instead of one time shots and filler characters. This is Nintendo's ALL-STARS not Nintendo junior varsity. Speaking of Ubisoft: Sam Fisher WILL BE IN IT!

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kareshi is black said:

Klonoa is from Namco, so is Pacman right? I think Klonoa would be cooler than Pac-man because he can fight and Pac-dude can't. Seriously what about those underground levels in Super Mario World, they should be selectable in SSBB.

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Ja-mez said:

Riley's right, Sonic won't turn down a challenge because he's a dare devil! I think Sonic's a definite because so many people want him.

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Ja-Mez said:

Who the hell is Klonoa? By the way, remember I said my bro broke my gamecube controls? I fixed mine by magically wacking it on the shelf (it happened with my PS2 as well!).

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Gabe Gabe said:

I think Charizard should most definitely be on the roster and take out Pichu. Jigglypuff is a vet so she can stay but I won't be happy.

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Amazon Kevin said:

Now that NSMB (New Super Mario Bros.) is out, do you think they will change the poison mushroom to the mini mushroom?

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Killer Ape said:

Gabe Charizard is too big. They should put Charmelon in it not Charizard.

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SSBB FAN said:

We don't need any more pokemon. If they did put in more they would be legendary pokemon.

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Riley said:

Gabe Gabe, Charizard can't be in because he's already in one of the pokeballs. On another note I think Angel Island should be a stage if Sonic appears. You'd have to battle to stay on the island and if you break the master emerald (you'd have to hit it a couple of times) Knuckles would come out from behind and beat the living crap out of you, he wouldn't be unlockable though *sigh*. He would be like Birdo on the subcom stage and you can beat him up just like you could Birdo.

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Hey said:

No way don't take out Pikachu, he's my best character!

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Killer Ape said:

Hey Pikachu is your best character? But gabe gabe said Pichu not Pikachu and he's right, Pichu should be out.

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Going wee of wii said:

If this Super Smash Bros game is anything like the gamecube one I will have to buy it.

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hey #2 said:

They should have Captain Crunch!

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Ja-Mez said:

Once again I'm pleased with one of Riley's ideas. I love the Knuckles idea, but Birdo doesn't beat the living crap outta you if ya hit her. And Nintendo, you guys should make a stage for Roy and Marth. Hey guys, since Lucas Arts is supporting Wii, imagine using Darth Vader? (IT COULD HAPPEN). And if there was fusion in Brawl, Marth Vader L0L!

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KanoMax said:

I think they need to put in 3 more pokemon (and don't give me the they're in pokeballs stuff because there's only 1, and they've taken pokemon from the 1st SSB out). Scisor, Sandslash and Grovyle.

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Riley said:

Thanks Ja-Mez, I meant Knuckles would be an arena monster just like Birdo was in Melee. Birdo hurts you with her eggs so she does attack you, and Marth Vader that is hilarious. KanoMax they aren't going to put any regular pokemon in, they have to be very famous or legendary. My bet would be Deoxys or the new guy from the new pokemon game Lucario, he looks like he has a lot more potential than Deoxys but if they put either in I'll be happy.

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Unknown said:

Sonic and Tails should be in the game. Not Knuckles because it'll be way to easy. Shadow could be unlockable.

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Ja-Mez said:

That's an OK idea KanoMax except Sandslash is from Red and Blue. If there are any more Pokemon (which I highly beleive) they should be from Sapphire and Ruby. But I love the Scizor idea. Grovyle's ok but usually they either have the full evolution or the first. Pikachu is middle because when SSB came out, Pichu didnt exist. Neither did Igglybuff for Jigglypuff but still. And maybe in Brawl, Mew could actually do something and maybe be extra rare and blast away opponents? And if they have another classical stage from N64, they should have the old Hyrule temple. I love the music to it. Oh and if Sonic's in it, Green Forest from Sonic adventure 2 Battle would be the greatest! I love that music the most. Or maybe even White Jungle! Or Ice Cap zone or Green hill zone, or the death egg, or flying battery zone, or sky sanctuary, or chemical plant zone, or launchpad zone or even lava reef zone.

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Riley said:

To Unknown: You do not diss Knuckles in my presence! There are only two more 3rd party slots so they are not going to put any other Sega character in besides Sonic. Shadow would be cool but my like for him has lessened, probally because of his game. Tails only flies and does the spindash so he wouldn't be that fun. No offense to fans, I like Tails he's just not suited for Brawl. And all this yelling has inspired me to make a new moveset for Knux (no he's not going to be in the game so don't start ranting at me). X:jump XX:double jump (hold the 2nd X and he's able to glide if you are near a wall on the glide you can climb on it). A: punch, AA: double punch, AA: upward punch, B: knock out punch (hits opponent with a powerful punch that paralizes enemies). B>: charge up for spindash, B^: does a firey uppercut, B down: in air he does a drill drive into enemies on the ground. He digs under the stadium and is impervious for a while. Taunt: he shakes his fist and says you want a knuckle sandwich. Weaknesses: he is really light and has poor defense. This is a lot better then my first one. Tata for now!

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Ja-Mez said:

Unknown's right, Knuckles could whoop anyone, but Shadow could whoop peoples candy butts as well. But since it might be Sonic's first appearance on the SSB series, Tails won't be in it. Or maybe he will. You never know because Ness, Samus and C Falcon have been loners in the past 2 games. Oh and Riley, I get your point now. Sorry. And I agree about Deoxys. Not Lucario because any non Pokemon fans wouldn't know him. Plus Diamond and Pearl were supposed to come out last year and still haven't.

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ganondorfrules said:

I reckon the jungle from Sonic Aventure Battle 2. You could climb trees because that would be cool and you use the jungle to your advantage.

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KanoMax said:

Ok Ja-Mez so you like all of the Sonic stages? But I can still see Sandslash on SSBB. He could have the Sonic spinny moves if Sonic isn't in the game (which is highly unlikely).

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Unknown said:

I did NOT diss Knuckles, I love Knuckles. Knuckles could beat anyone's butt. I'm saying that SSBB would be too easy if Knuckles was in the game. Knuckles would be the strongest guy.

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Killer Ape said:

Riley why do you want all the last 2-3 3rd party characters to be from Sonic? The only Sega character I want is Sonic. The other 3rd party characters would be Rayman and Megaman.

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Ja-Mez said:

KanoMax that is the worst idea ever! Sorry but I hate same style characters.

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Riley said:

Same here Killer Ape, those are the people I want in Rayman and Megaman. Also Sonic but everyone knows that. It's just Knuckles is my favorite Sonic character and I was doing that movelist for fun.

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Nintendo Battle said:

Hey some cool characters would be the Pichu twins, the body of Master Hand, Ballon fighters, Dark Samus, Meta-Ridley, Gooey (Kirby), Rick (Kirby series), Stafy (the legend of stafy), Richu (Pokemon), Mew (pokemon), Birdo (Mario), Captain Olimar (Pikmin), Isaac, Garet, Ivan, Mia, Felix, Jenna, Sheba and Piers (all from Golden Sun). If you have not noticed, all the characters on the previous games are owned by Nintendo.

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Ed said:

Maybe Valoo (the Legend of Zelda the Minish cap) would make a good entry.

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Nitindo DJP said:

Can you put Vaati in Super Smash Bros Brawl?

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ganondorfrules said:

Outta the Sonic characters I would ask for Shadow and Sonic because they are kind of like twins, so whichever one is put on doesn't bother me. I'd prefer Shadow honestly, but yea Megaman wouldn't be bad. Rayman? I dunno. Maybe Harry Potter, nah just kidding he would suck bad haha.

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myspacebarisbroken said:

Yeah but what about Wario? I mean everyone here has watched the SSBB trailer right? He FARTS at the end. Come on, that's pretty disgusting for a Nintendo game.

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Ja-Mez said:

Nitendo DJP has a good idea. Vaati should be in Brawl. Maybe Koopa would be good too. Maybe even Aggron from Pokemon. Or maybe Giga Bowser should be playable.

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Pikaluk said:

What about character rivals from Ness's game? Come on, did everyone forget about Ness? Also, screw Sonic and Tails. They would suck and if they had Sonic and Shadow they would end up the same like Falco/Fox, Gannon/Falcon, Mario/Dr Mario/Luigi, Roy/Marth. It's going to be a great game no matter what. WII ALL THE WAY! The levels from screenshot 1/2/4, they look like they are from Zelda or Pit's game. Can't remember names right now.

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Cooler than scty said:

To Someone cooler than you. Recently Miyamoto has said in a press conference that, "Sonic is definetally the most asked for character in SSBB." Of course, that doesn't mean he will be in it, but it does have some sort of meaning. Why would he tease fans like that if they weren't trying to get Sonic in the game. Gamers have been dying since the eighties and nineties to get Sonic and Mario in a game together. And by the looks of things, it's finally happening. As for all of you out there saying Sora from KH couldnt be in it, may I remind you that KH COM was a gba game? And what about famed final fantasy composer Nobuo Uematsu doing the theme for SSBB? Seems fishy to me. Rayman would be a nice add on. Way cooler than most of the other ideas posted on this website. His moves practically beg for him to be in this game. Finally, Ubisoft has like seven wii projects and it's been announced that they ARE adding a character into the game. So my guess is that come 2007 we will be able to duke it out between Rayman and Mario. Oh and whoever said Luigi needs to go, his moves are different than Mario, way different. Luigi is by far the best character in Melee, and I beat event match 51 in 2.31.56 with him. So actually think about what you're saying before saying it.

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Riley said:

Pikaluk you are going straight to hell! I mean beside 'cooler than you everyone on this site wants him in. So take my advice and lay low for a while, don't answer the doorbell and stay away from anybody who likes Sonic the hedgehog!

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Ja-Mez said:

Actually Pikaluk, it's the new Final Destination stage I think and so far that stage is just called floating platform on top of rocky canyon. Sonic would not suck! Everyone wants him and no one ever liked Earth Bound! I agree for another character but seriously, Earth Bound should be re-made into a 3D version. And myspacebarisbroken, it's a bit obvious that your space bar is not broken because you've put all those spaces in your sentence!

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Unknown said:

Ness came from a game on the SNES and had 2 sequels. After that, nothing. If he had more games he'd probably be a bit more popular. But I do hope there is another character from Earthbond.

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splintercell4ever said:

Ok guys, Double Agent is now officially on the wii. So if that's not good enough to get him in, I don't know what is.

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sac a dos said:

Tom Nook will own you all.

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Killer Ape said:

Even if Double Agent is going to be for the wii, Sam Fisher has no chance of being in this game.

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splintercell4ever said:

Yes he does. Wouldn't you want a fight between Snake vs Sam? Enough of this Rayman, Megaman or Sonic, I want the realistic characters.

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WiiFan15 said:

But realistic characters is defeating the point of a cartoonish fighting game like SSB. I mean imagine fighting Pikachu or a lot of other characters with a 6 foot tall guy. That would be kind of weird wouldn't it.

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myspacebarisbroken said:

James Bond? Nah, he'd be too violent for a Nintendo game. Why not Toad? Or even Fludd as an item!

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quartzlcc said:

Rayman, Megaman and especially Sonic all have higher chances of making it than most realistic characters. Nintendo is mostly unrealistic characters (part of the reason I like it so much). Sonic is the most wanted 3rd party character in this game I hear. So yeah, chances are he'll be in it. Rayman? Maybe. Megaman? Maybe. But Rayman WOULD be pretty well fit for this game, he'd kick serious ass.

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Killer Ape said:

No I don't really want a fight between Snake vs Sam. But enough about Rayman, Megaman and Sonic! Who cares about realistic characters, Snake's the only one brawl got and it's fine. But really you don't care about those characters. I mean Sonic and Rayman have a better chance than Megaman, but Megaman has a better chance then Sam.

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Ja-Mez said:

Killer Ape, what you typed up there was all over the place! And I suppose Mario is kind of realistic, except he has a massive nose and a super jump and can shoot fire balls. But Peach is pretty real though, she has no magical talent but can float with her dress. That's about as unrealistic she can get.

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Pikaluk said:

I'd still have to say Geno for a new character.

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ganondorfrules said:

Cooler than scty you can do event 51 in less with Samus, trust me I did it. It just takes a few tries. It's easy to get rid of Giga Bowser but it takes just a little over a minute to take out Ganondorf and Mewtwo if you use the attacks at the right time.

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luigi said:

Megaman, Sonic and the guy from Contra will probably make an appearance.

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Amazon Kevin said:

I'm thinking more from Kirby games. Maybe even Dynablade or Waddle doo! I don't need to suggest King DeDeDe because I KNOW he'll be in brawl.

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Riley said:

Realistic characters, was there something I missed? For all those people who want realistic characters you got Snake so stop whining. And on another note Mario isn't that realistic, I mean look at it this way. Mario's an almost middle age man and Link is 17 and he's twice the height of him. So really Mario is cartoon-ish. Also stop posting about the dumbest characters, James Bond?! (sarcasm) you know what let's throw in Bill Cosby and why not the Kool-aid man while we're at it! (end sarcasim). They are only going to put characters that are real video games so stop saying guys like Naruto, Goku, James Bond will be in. I like the intelligent ideas people are posting on this site. Sonic, Rayman or Megaman are the most likely to be in Brawl. For all those who disagree with me just listen to common sense!

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Killer Ape said:

Yea go Riley! Finally someone says something about those dumb characters like James Bond, Goku and Naruto. Because Sakurai said no manga or cartoon characters are going to be in it.

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wii-mote dude said:

I don't think Sonic would make a good smash bros caracter, even if there was a chance of him getting in. One, all he can do is the homing attack, the tornado thing from sonic heroes, and well, running. Don't get me wrong, I love sonic games (I own 4 or 5), but he just wouldn't be that good. And smash bros is for exclusive Nintendo characters only! Why do you think they didn't put sonic in there in the last 2 smash bros?

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Ja-Mez said:

Ey Ganondorfrules, I done it in 47 seconds with Kirby! Just keep doing the brick then jump up to Giga Bowser and do that Mid-Air triple kick and the Kirby Comet against the others. And Amazon Kevin, get your facts right. It's waddle DEE! Not DOO! And I agree for Dyna Blade, he'd be cool. So would Dedede. There you go again Riley, another good idea.

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Pikaluk said:

Actually the kool-aid man would kick butt!

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ganondorfrules said:

I agree with Sonic being in Brawl but Megaman is a 50-50 chance with me. I hate Rayman for some reason and I just don't want to see him in Brawl. Instead I'd prefer Waluigi.

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splintercell4ever said:

Fine you want don't want realistic characters. How about Kratos? Yeah well he wasn't on the gamecube but it sure would be fun seeing him slice up pikachu and rip off Ness' arm.

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Lickwid said:

I'm just realizing that there has been no Windwaker Link in the ssmb games, since the first 2 came out before Wind waker. It would be a cool twist.

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Hey said:

And Wind waker Gonondorf. Can't forget him and his big ol' nose. He had some cool sword techniques, and it would be fun to turn into puppet ganon or the spider ganon. A secret character could be Wind Waker Phantom Ganon.

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Riley said:

Wind waker came out in 2003, Melee came out in 2001.

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Danny D said:

All I can say is, this is the only reason I'm buying one.

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Amazon Kevin said:

Ja-Mez, there IS a difference between Waddle Dee and Waddle Doo. Waddle Doo has one giant eye on his face! You get the beam ability from him.

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Unknown said:

SSBB is japanese game made by a japanese company in Japan. I seriously doubt that Japan knows anything about Kratos or Sam. Now don't get me wrong. I love God of War and the Splinter Cell series, in fact I can't wait for Double Agent. But those are AMERICAN games and Japan doesn't like american games so much. Snake is there because he was made by Kojima Pro, a japanese company. So please stop saying Sam or Kratos will be in the game.

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nintendo_freak7777 said:

This game is definitely going to be the top seller / most wanted for Wii. Can't wait for my copy.

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Splintercell4ever said:

Hey God of War was released in Japan. I'm not sure about Splinter Cell, but Pandora Ttommorow was made by Ubisoft Shanghai (in Asia). MGS 4 is exclusive to the PS3, so he won't have his own game on the Wii. So I'd say Sam has a chance, and possibly even Kratos.

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Giga said:

This is going to be wicked. I'm gonna get this game when I get my Wii, Samus looks hot without her armor.

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singapore_meh said:

I think Lloyd from Tales of Symphonia would work perfectly. I don't get why no one ever mentions him. His moves fit perfectly for Smash Bros.

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Unknown said:

Whatever. If you have any proof that Kratos or Sam will be SSBB, tell me then I'll take back everything I said back there.

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singapore_meh said:

Kratos can't be in it. The makers said a character must have been on a Nintendo system before and God of War (1&2) were only PS2.

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lloyd said:

Yes! Lloyd from tales would be perfect! And my name is lloyd so how cool would that be. When I played that game it was scary how similar Lloyd Irvine is to me! And it would be cool to fight my dad Kratos lol. Getting excited. If only the fans made the games they would be so much better.

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Sonic The Hedgehog said:

It sure would be cool for me to be on this game, even though Sega won't let me.

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Knuckles said:

I think I would be awesome too! That Riley has some pretty good moves for me, I could totally see myself in Brawl (along with Sonic of course) .I could whoop all of you, bring it on Nintendo!

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Captain Jamesman said:

I hope this game will have some characters from Capcom fighting games like Street Fighter & Darkstalkers. That would hella rock!

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Captain Jamesman said:

Even though I wouldn't count on it, here's a character that should be in SSBB. Viewtiful Joe. He needs to be in a fighting game, and this is it!

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singapore_meh said:

I think Viewtiful Joe would fit in pretty well. He's definitely the same platformer style as most of the others and he has plenty of moves to choose from. This game is all about making characters that don't normally "fight" fight, so street fighters wouldn't fit in well. Oh and if one more person pretends they're a video game character, I think I'm going to snap!

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Amazon Kevin said:

Let's talk less about characters and more about levels. They should put in levels from games like Donkey Kong Jungle Beat and StarFox Assault. That would be the best.

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wii-mote dude said:

You should be able to be a Chozo. That would be really cool. Or even better, a Chozo ghost! I would love shooting white phazon-things at people.

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Captain Jamesman said:

I just got that idea since other than Dante, Viewtiful is one of the Capcom characters I know that's never been in a fighting game. Oh yeah! And X from Megaman X should be in it too since he's the only Megaman, other then the new Megaman that's never been in a fighting game.

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Hey said:

It would be really cool if you could use your Mii avatar in SSBB!

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WiiFan15 said:

How about Viewtiful Joe and Viewtiful Joe style Dante, except not a clone.

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DarkVic said:

I can't wait for this game! The new characters, stages, items, trophies, it's going to be a blast. I hope they put Toad, Megaman or Starwolf from Starfox in.

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Ja-Mez (and Jake) said:

Its still me but with Jake. ME: Maybe Galax from Kirby's Air Ride should be a character and Machine Passage as a stage. And I hope they have Meta-Knight in white. Oh and I finally unlocked the Tom Nook trophy and saw how stupid he looked. And maybe a random character and stage match with different items set and time or stock or even both. JAKE: They should create portals leading from one level to another while battling. And maybe a Matrix special melee (or Brawl) where the speed of the fight randomly changes like every minute or something?

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Ja-Mez (and Jake) said:

We thought up an idea of Gex being in Brawl! Since his game sucks, it might be a good recovery for him. Who agrees? (ME!) (Jake).

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JT said:

I think they should put on Deoxyss and Jirachi on SSBB from pokemon and they should put an event match that your Jirachi and you have to kill Deoxyss.

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the legendary Jake said:

If they have a Zero Suit Samus they Might as well put a naked Samus too!

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Ja-Mez said:

I hate the idea for StarWolf! Why? Because I hate same style characters. You guys should really think of less related characters. We need the main hero and the best looking enemy from each franchise. Viewtiful Joe? That's AN INSULT TO HAL LABS! It's a fighting game, not a sightseeing thing! And not to mention being from Capcom. He might be well known but everyone knows that Megaman is Capcom's highest chance of appearing in Brawl.

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Riley C. said:

Yeah I changed my name from Riley to Riley C. Yeah for Ja-Mez, no friggin' viewtiful joe! But I have to disagree on the same fighting style, I actually liked some of the clones. It let you play differently if you wanted a character to be stronger or a better jumper or faster. Like Roy, Falco and Young Link. Some guys *cough*Pichu, Dr. Mario*cough* were just plain bad. I don't like it how people give clones a bad rep (in fact my two best characters are clones: Falco and Roy). You can take out all the clones except Falco and Roy, the best clones in the game! If They are in Brawl I will take revenge on all of you online suckas! To the legendary Jake: YOU PERVERT, I like the way you think man!

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Killer Ape said:

I think Wolf would be a great idea in Brawl. It needs more Starfox characters in it. Also Ganondorf was a good clone too. If Ganondorf, Roy and Falco are in Brawl they should get new moves.

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Riley C. said:

I think I read somewhere that they are going to make Ganondorf a sword wielder. Ya' know, the one he shows when he wins a match. Now using that would be friggin' sweet!

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DarkVic said:

Once I get this game and the online feature, I'll kick all of your asses! In SSBM I was the best, it was the only game on the GC that I played. Be prepared to get wooped! Anyone up to my challenge?

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kareshi is black said:

Is Starwolf that important? Hey ja-mez forget about Gex, you said it, his games suck so he will not be in SSBB, and do the japanese know him? I don't think Viewtiful Joe will be in the game because if you look at the possibilities of him being in the game they're not big. I don't want to see Sam fisher because he is from Ubisoft and the animation is not japanese-like so he won't fit. Same thing for Ray-Man, every game I played from his franchise sucked. For the clones thing, they should keep every clone from the game exept Dr Mario and Pichu because they are almost the same as Mario and Pikachu. Falco and Fox are ok because they are not the same character and it's the same for Roy & Marth and Ganondorf and Cap. Nintendo should spend less money on the trophies thing and put more on the characters and the stages.

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Ja-Mez said:

Ganondorf is OK but the fact that C Falcon has the same moveset as him and they're not even from the same franchise haunts me. Falco is an alright clone except he's too much like Fox. He has the same outfit, the blaster is a bit slower and he jumps higher. That's not enough differences! Falco's Fire Falcon move should be in blue flames. That's the only change I can think of but still. Fox is my best character and I kick ass! Seriously, I wish they had a level 12 or something. I defeated friggin All Star on Very Hard!

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Ja-Mez said:

Gex's game may have sucked, only because you needed a memory chip that went in the back of your conrol on N64 to play it and the graphics weren't too good either. But Gex is cool and his special move might be unleashing all these ghosts and weird creatures from the game from his remote! And DarkVic, shut yer trap! How are you supposed to know how well we play? And how do you know you're the best? Go to Japan and verse the man who created the game! And besides, people say they can beat us but they probably can't. God knows that Grrrrrl person, the girl (guy) that was annoying us a while back with characters like Daisy and Amy Rose could be better than you! You never know.

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Riley C. said:

I'll take you all on in Brawl, Falco is my best character. I can whoop 3 level 9 Bowsers in about 30 seconds in stamina mode! I think in Brawl when we all get it we should beat the living crap out of Darkvic online, that sounds fun! This is just a weird idea mind you, but what if Chibi Robo was in the game. He is a Nintendo franchise after all and they need new main characters in Brawl. Newer game icons like Tom Nook, KK Slider (both Animal Crossing), Captain Olimar (Pikmin), The Hammer (Project Hammer). What do you think? Some new franchise Nintendo characters.

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singapore_meh said:

I still think Viewtiful would fit in well. I mean the game started out as a Nintendo exclusive and really he's been more of a poster boy for Nintendo recently than Megaman has. Don't get me wrong I'd probably rather have Megaman, but he's really kind of died out on the Nintendo consoles (except handhelds).

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wii-mote dude said:

Viewtiful Joe, even though I'm not exactly his biggest fan I have to admit he would make the PERFECT character. His games already use the platforming style Super Smash Bros uses.

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ganondorfrules said:

Ill take you all on also my besties are link, fox, ganondorf(personel fav), mewtwo and samus so but riley see bowsers are easy chllenges but good work and yeh ill take down darkvic really quick and ill make it short for the rest of you lol.

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Splintercell4ever said:

Guys guess what. I won't need to go online because I have friends!

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milkman844 said:

All I want from SSBB is less damn clones. They just make things too complicated with like 30 extra charcters. They should keep every character completely unique. A good thing to do instead is add variation characters, like zelda/shiek. There's samus/zerosuit, but they could add more, like link/fiercediety, mario/dr mario, pokemon/their evolution, ganon/ganondorf/phantom ganon etc. And I hope there aren't any new Pokemon. Pikachu and a few others were fine, but any more then that is stupid. If you want Pokemon play Battle Revolution. Some good new character possibilities would be a goron, zora or deku scrub. They have good possibilities, or you can just have Link transform into them.

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kareshi is black said:

Riley. The dragon guy from metroid. People want him as a character. Does he have a soul? What I mean is I don't want a character without any soul. I never saw him outside of Metroid, and he wasn't that great at all.

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WiiFan15 said:

SplinterCell, you think you're cool because you claim you have friends. You're assuming that everyone is a loser whose whole life is dedicated to sitting in front of their TV eating Doritos, drinking Mountain Dew and playing video games. However you've failed to realize that people here have friends and do social things like hang out with their friends, play sports etc, including me. I hang out with my friends all the time, I run track and play lacrosse. Video games is just something I find fun and enjoy in my spare time. So don't assume anything about people you don't know. And if you had a social life like you claim, you wouldn't be reading this post right now!

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ganondorfrules said:

Good for you splintercell4ever, we have friends too want a medal? Unlike you we want to show our skill to the rest of world but you can't because you just want to beat your mates all day. I'd find that boring.

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Ja-Mez said:

Hey I figured out a good idea for buying the Wii. On the day before it's released, laybuy it! Oh and milkman844, I like your thinking. But at least one more Pokemon is needed. Nintendo needs to add at least one character from each franchise. And I'd love to see Toad: Mario Bros, Ridley: Metroid, Samurai Goroh: F-Zero and others as well.

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Riley C. said:

Why is everyone dissing Pokemon? There are even more Legend of Zelda characters (if you include Shiek) it has 5! Mario has 5 as well (if you include Yoshi). What is the big deal, if you want less Pokemon take out Pichu and add someone else. Splintercell4ever, you're such a stereotypist! Not every person plays video games all the time, and besides sometimes you can't always play your friends. They made online so you could experience multiplayer anytime so shut up and play with your so called "friends" *cough* his little sister and her friends *cough*.

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singapore_meh said:

Ooh Video Game fights, cool! I don't get putting Toad in the game. I mean what does he do? In most Mario games he's just running around like a pansy. Ridley'd be cool. I don't think you should have more zelda/shiek characters. The whole transform took away B down. And because you got two characters, they gave you bad special moves.

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ganondorfrules said:

Yea Riley C that's funny because splintercell4ever got owned, and yea just take out Pichu and Jigglypuf because I hate them both.

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Joe Teh Laugh King said:

Hey why don't we talk about the items? I got a great idea for an item, it's like a shadow orb type thing and it takes you to this shadow realm. Some characters might change like Ganondorf to Ganon, Link to Fierce Deity and more like that.

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DarkVic said:

And by the way Ja-Mez have you ever heard of a word called joking?

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Riley C. said:

They shouldn't take out Jigglypuff. It's not really my favorite character but people don't give it enough credit. It's got one of the best attacks in the entire game, its B down attack. For the people that didn't know this, do it in the air when you're on a person and at the right time it knocks them of the friggin' stage. In fact Jigglypuff is the best person to beat Giga Bowser, it gets rid of em in about 3 seconds. Just because it looks cuddly doesn't mean it's weak.

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Ja-Mez said:

Yes DarkVic I have. Toad could use his strength from Super Mario 2 and since he always runs around, he is quite fast. And his super smash move could be using a power star (that does give him a one hit KO and invincibility) to whack the crap outta you. Jigglypuff is unique and her up throw move could kill anyone say over about 50% damage and her rollout is powerful and rest is a one hit KO! Maybe it's because she's pink people hate her.

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ganondorfrules said:

Yea that attack is called rest and I didn't have to use Jigglypuff for it. I did it really quick with Samus.

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milkman844 said:

If people hate Jigglypuff because she's pink, how come everyone loves Kirby?

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Wii-Worshiper said:

You got a point. I love Kirby but hate Jigglypuff, strange.

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DarkVic said:

I want this game really badly, but I'm concerned about the controls. It's going to be really hard to master using motion sensing capabilities. How do you guys think the way to jump is controlled?

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Ja-Mez said:

Kirby is cute because of his little eyes and mouth and big shoes, and his attacks and copy ability makes him stand out too. Kirby's the character I used to kill Giga Bowser with. Go wittle Kirby! I don't think we should talk about characters any more because that's probably the first thing Nintendo worked on, they've probably finished the character list already so maybe focus on stages and items and modes of Brawl.

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wii_owns said:

Because he can eat people, Jigglypuff can't do anything cool.

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ganondorfrules said:

I don't dislike them because they're pink. I just don't like their attacks much and Kirby I rarely use.

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Captain Jamesman said:

If you ask me, I don't like Jigglypuff not because she's pink, but because that she has sucky moves and that she's sort of a Kirby clone. But I think they both would make a great couple. I even drew a picture of them that way when I was 9 or 10 years old.

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Riley C. said:

She's not a Kirby clone, she just looks like him. All they share is the multi-jump ability. If you call her a clone you might as well call Meta and Pit clones as well since they both share the multi-jump.

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Epsilon said:

Who says Jigglypuff's a SHE?! *dunn dunn dunn*. Seriously though, people hoping for Gorons, Koopas and other common characters probably shouldn't get their hopes up. However, there's always a possibility they'll be in an Adventure Mode stage (or whatever they'll call it in Brawl). Let's see some new F-Zero characters! Except you Blood Hawk. No one loves you. Besides you'd just be a Captain Falcon clone like Ganondorf. Those of you concerned about controls, retro controllers will be used for this (as far as I know). In other news, it is highly likely that CF's super move will just be running people over.

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ganondorfrules said:

I think Captain Jamesman meant by clone as in Jigglypuff and Kirby's moves somehow relate. Like Jigglypuff's sing and Kirby's stone ability they make the character kind of immortal for a small bit and their -> B attack kind of does a lot of damage. Kirby's final cutter does heaps of damage and so does Jigglypuff's rest but those two moves don't match. They are 50-50 clone and not, but that's just my opinion. I just don't like using them much and pretty much all my friends use Kirby. I find him and Jigglypuff kind of cheap because I like fair and square matches. How come nobody has mentioned anything about Wario?

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Anko Mitarashi said:

Pit, Roy and Link are the hottest on this game *wink*.

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Riley C. said:

On this one list of characters that some people wanted they had the lamest characters. I got so annoyed with people saying koopas or bomb-ombs should be in. These people might have been drunk or something because their list didn't make any sense.

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Captain Jamesman said:

I do have something to say about Wario. His Wario Waft looks like a real sick joke of a move. I'm not being offensive! And maybe some of Wario's friends should be in it too.

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singapore_meh said:

Nobody likes Wario, he's fat and he's flatulent. What else do I have to say. Oh and Lloyd from TofS could beat Pit, Roy and link in a sword fight any day. He should be in this game. But not Genis because his name makes me laugh.

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WiiFan15 said:

No, Lloyd is not cool enough to breath the same air as Link and would get wrecked by any of those people so stop raving about him.

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Captain Jamesman said:

Singapore meh, that was just cruel what you said! I thought most of the Wario games were funny and the gameplay was fun for all. I think Wario is #2 compared to Mario & Others. I oughta put soap in your mouth and tape it up!

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ganondorfrules said:

I guess you're right Singapore meh but Wario has had his moments of fame. I think everybody would probably agree with me if Nintendo should switch Wario for Waluigi because Waluigi wouldn't have a farting move, it would probably involve something cool I bet.

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singapore_meh said:

Link's a fruity little elf who hangs out with fairies. Lloyd = no fairies and no elves (except Genis but his name makes me laugh). Wario's games are fun. But he's still fat and he's flatulent. I felt bad having anyone ride behind him in Double Dash.

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Captain Jamesman said:

I guess you got a point there. But don't forget the time in the Super Mario Bros Super Show, Mario was a little overweight back then, even though the episodes were funny. But I still think Wario is a great character. Maybe they should put Waluigi in the game, but keep Wario.

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WiiFan15 said:

If Link's a little fruity elf then how come he is one of the greatest video game characters ever created, and has some of the greatest games? But Lloyd on the other hand, is a little fudgepacker with an 80's dyke spike hairdo thing. He is not cool and never will be.

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Ja-Mez said:

As long as Wario isn't too much of a Mario clone, he can stay.

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NapaCoach said:

Kid Icarus! My favorite NES hero ever.

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Amazon Kevin said:

It would be cool if Kirby's abilities could change the environment. Like if he had Bowser's hat he could burn trees and stuff.

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Captain Jamesman said:

Link is a popular character because he had games as great as Mario. Personally I like Mario games best, but Link has enough positives to be a great star. For example, his new game had a lot of fans that wanted to play. Hell even I pre-ordered it for gamecube, but if I get a Wii first then I'll get it for Wii.

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Captain Jamesman said:

Here are some more characters that should be in SSBB, White Mage & Black Mage! I mean, they have powers that are useful at times. I thought they were good characters in Mario Hoops. And Kasumi from DOA if possible.

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singapore_meh said:

I never said Link's games are bad. Some of them were really fun. But that doesn't change the fact that Link is and has been since OofT a fruity little elf who hangs with fairies. Oh and hiya, Lloyd's from an RPG. Of course his hair style is lame. Developers live to do that. Are white and black mage from FFCC?

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Ja-Mez said:

I think only one mage should be in. Just change the colours of it. I guess Black mage would go in because I hate clones. Anyway, I think it's too late to think about characters. Like I said before, they probably finished them because that would be the first thing that Nintendo focused on.

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Captain Jamesman said:

Singapore_meh I don't think they're in FFCC but I know some Nintendo games that White & Black Mage are in. Final Fantasy for NES, Final Fantasy 2 for SNES, Final Fantasy 3 for SNES & Final Fantasy Tactics Advance for GBA. Now for stages, how about The Mario Toy Company? Oh, and for items, how about the Mini Mario Toys!

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Killer Ape said:

Sam would have no attacks but punch or kick. He uses guns and they won't put guns in the game.

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singapore_meh said:

Ya Jamesman you're right, black mage has been in almost every FF for Nintendo. I think he'd work really well in SSBB.

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SingingStorm said:

I think too many people are hyped about Sonic. Personally, I can't see his moves being all that original. I'm all for Tales of Symphonia stuff though. ToS characters, and stages like the Tower of Salvation, or the Renegade and Desian bases, and maybe items like apples gels, or hourglass.

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Amazon Kevin said:

I heard that Hideo is making the stage for Snake. I wonder what it'll be like.

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Ja-Mez said:

Amazon Kevin, where'd you hear that? And I think I've put the most posts on this page. My first one was the Sonic move set. I come on this site every day because I'm a Smash Bros fan all the friggin way!

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ganondorfrules said:

I probably won't use Snake much though.

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Riley C. said:

You must have the most posts Ja-Mez. I counted all of them and you have like 50! The second most amount of posts would probably belong to Ganondorfrules and I.

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Wii-Worshiper said:

Snake is a cool feature and will boost sales for Smash Bros but I wonder if he is any good? What kind of attacks does he have? A box Woooow that is amazing!

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Splintercell4ever said:

Why would you want Waluigi? All he is and ever will be is a filler character.

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Killer Ape said:

I would use Snake a lot!

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Epsilon said:

If you really think about it, in terms of third party characters it'll probably only be major characters from big time series. For instance, if they include Sonic characters, it will likely only be limited to Sonic. As for say, Baten Kaitos, it's unlikely there'll be anything from it because it's such a small series right now. Not to mention that characters from series like Halo and Kingdom Hearts won't be in it because other than KH:Chain of Memories there have been no games from those series on Nintendo systems (and KH because of the coexistence of the Square Enix and Disney copyrights). Final Fantasy? I can only see either Cloud or a general Black Mage in SSBB. In addition, any third-party series with only one or two games, unless it's incredibly successful, will either have a very slim or no chance at all of making it in. And for any of you hoping for someone like Shrek or James Bond being in it (which I doubt anyone is hoping for), don't. Nintendo doesn't want them ruining the name of its top fighting game franchise.

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Ja-Mez said:

I wouldn't use Snake much either because I've never played a Metal Gear Solid game before. I'm definitely going to play as Meta-Knight until I unlock Sonic (if he's in it). Sonic is like my hero. I might only have one of his games (Sonic Riders) but I guess he's just my personal fave. I think that S.S.B.B will come out in early January. Anyway, since it comes out in 2007, it automatically limits our play time to 4 weeks at the most. Once school starts again we won't be able to pick it up so please, HURRY UP NINTENDO!

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DarkVic said:

I'm going to play as Wario, seeing as he's my favorite Nintendo character. I've always wanted him on a SSBB game. I wish this game was on launch.

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ganondorfrules said:

I'll definitely play as Pit and Metaknight the most, followed by Link and Ganondorf. I'm sure Ganondorf is going to be in it and I'm sure he won't be a secret character. I hope Mewtwo is in it too and yea I'll use Sonic when I unlock him.

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Fishmon said:

Waluigi would be good because if you're bored and have noone else to play with, you could arrange a match between Mario, Luigi, Wario, and Waluigi. I've always wanted to see those 4 guys fight each other. You could be one and the rest could be computers or you could make them all computers and just watch but that's why Waluigi should be in.

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Ja-Mez said:

So then you'll be called Sonicrules right?

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ganondorfrules said:

Yea I got so bored I decided to count how many posts Riley C, Ja-mez and I did send. It turns out I sent 19 posts, Riley C sent 33 and Ja-mez sent a whopping 55 posts haha. Good work us three high 5!

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Wii-Worshiper said:

Although Wario is pretty much my fave Nintendo character, I'm not sure about using him. But I will definitely use Sonic when I unlock him!

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Ja-Mez said:

Make that 56 now. Fishmon, I like your idea but if you put them on 4-on-4, wouldn't you want em on teams like Wario and Wa-Luigi vs Mario and Luigi? My point is, you'd have to change their colours. Mario looks bad in green and Luigi in pink, don't ask. Maybe there is a set team match in Brawl and you can have them on watever colour you want!

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real talk said:

Put Banjo and Tooie?

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LordJessifer said:

This game right here is the whole reason I want a Wii. It's going to own.

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Captain Jamesman said:

Even I want Banjo & Kazooie in it so bad, but the company who owns Xbox owns the rights to Banjo now. It could take a lot of time to get him back.

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Ja-Mez said:

A good idea would be a metal mode in special melee or Brawl.

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wii-mote dude said:

You can't put Banjo and Tooie or whoever they are. They're not owned by Nintendo. Smash bros is for Nintendo-owned characters only! Why do you think they take characters out of obscure NES games to put in?

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Ja-Mez said:

If it's Nintendo characters only, what's the deal with Snake and the extra 2-3 3rd party characters about? Seriously that was a dumb comment. And it's not Banjo and Tooie, it's Banjo Kazooie! Banjo Tooie was the 2nd of Banjo Kazooie. I know my stuff.

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Dizzle said:

I think the best feature is the online gameplay so you don't have to just play the cpu if you don't want to.

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wii-mote dude said:

Oh yeah, by the way it doesn't matter if they're owned by another party. Yes, I admit that part of my comment was very dumb. Hehe. It just matters if they're only in Nintendo games. Sorry about that.

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singapore_meh said:

A character had to have appeared on a Nintendo system to be in SSBB. Banjo and Kazooie had two games for N64. Unfortunately, RARE took them with the Microsoft buy out, and because of the bad tension between Nintendo and Rare now it's "rare" that we'll get to see Banjo beat anyone up in the near future.

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Wii-Worshiper said:

That sucks, Banjo is cool.

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Metaknight said:

I thought Kirby was cool but when I saw Metaknight I changed my mind. I still don't understand why Sonic is so great. Anyway I am going to challenge most of you to an online game.

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Kevin said:

Personally, I think that it would be kind of cool if they had one character slot where you could play as a better looking one of your Miis. If the attacks were the same no matter what Mii it was, it shouldn't be too hard to do. Don't you guys think it would be kind of cool to be able to play as yourself in SSB?

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Killer Ape said:

I don't think it would be cool to be your mii in SSBB. Wouldn't you guys rather play a character that is new to Smash Bros?

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Pink-Rose said:

Kevin, that'll be wierd but it does sounds kind of cool!

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singapore_meh said:

Playing as your Mii'd be interesting but a whole ton of people would be pissed that they spent a precious slot on a really random character. I guess it'd make a good last slot, it's weirder than Mr Game & Watch. I dunno.

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Chees502 said:

That would be awesome Kevin. That may even be the new fighting polygon team all the Miis on your revolution, that would be cool.

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Ja-Mez said:

Hey Metaknight, think about it. Sonic would be the fastest guy out there and have lots of powerful leg moves. Not to mention the huge crowd that wants him to make an appearance. If Sonic has a crappy moveset it will make a lot of players angry. And Kevin, I don't think anyone's going to want to play as their Mii. They're cool but I don't think Nintendo will make a moveset for them. If they did, they probably wouldnt have any third jump. They'd be like the wire frames. Which reminds me, I hope the polygons make another appearance. And yes Microsoft does own Rare now. They turned the stupid Conker the squirrel games into violent gun games rated R.

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Amazon Kevin said:

Since SSBM had trophies, what do you think brawl will have?

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Killer Ape said:

I think SSBB will have trophies.

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SSBB FAN said:

I think they will still have trophies just a lot more of them.

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Ja-Mez said:

I reckon theyll still have trophies. I'm only 11 trophies short of the total. I think they're a great idea because it shows all of our different achievements. Now that I think about it, there should be 400 trophies now or at least 370 because there are only 290 in Melee.

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singapore_meh said:

I think they'll put in something just like trophies only different, like paintings, or medals, or dolls. "Yay I got a Haliberd doll, alright!".

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Wii-Worshiper said:

It would be funny if they had a stage on SSBB of Jak and Daxter that would be cool.

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Unknown said:

This might sound stupid but what about Master Hand Jr? A smaller version of Master Hand. Using your Mii would be a great idea.

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SSBB FAN said:

I think it would be cool if they put in a few Resident Evil characters like Leon, Chris or Wesker.

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Ja-Mez said:

Resident Evil is movie based so it wouldn't be on SSBB. Only characters featured on games only will appear. Also Wii-Worshiper, Jak and Daxter is PlayStation exclusive so keep dreaming about that one. Master Hand Jr? I don't see it happening.

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singapore_meh said:

Why would they have a Jak stage in SSBB? They don't have anything to do with Nintendo or Brawl.

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Wii-Worshiper said:

That's my point, it would be funny.

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SSBB FAN said:

Ja-Mez what are you talking about? Resident Evil started out as video games then they made the movies. I can't believe you didn't know that.

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joe said:

I hope it makes the holidays.

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singapore_meh said:

The first resi movie came out in 2002, years after the first game in the 90's for playstation. Although pesonally I think Snake already stole Leon's chance at brawl. I think in the end they'd end up a little too similar for those "clone haters" out there.

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Sen said:

I look forward to beating all of you online.

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diego said:

For one I hope Ganon gets to use his machette. We always seeing him posing with it at the end of a victorious battle and the boss Bowser better be there also, and I hope they alter his Bowser bomb and give him something more useful.

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Scooby!_Jew said:

This is going to rule every Wii game through its entire existance. This game is the single largest reason that I've been anticipating the Wii so much. If anybody wants to see me, just look at the front of the line when this game comes out. And Sen: You're on.

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Ja-Mez said:

The Bowser Bomb is a powerful move, I don't see why you'd want it to be changed. And Scooby!_Jew, I like your thinking.

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Lord Random said:

To Sen: *crackles knuckles* In the words of a certain non-nintendo character, "It's showtime". *puts Link costume on*. I thought it'd be appropriate. Go on, everyone laugh at me, I can take it.

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Captain Jamesman said:

I hope they put Athena Asamiya from King of Fighters in the game. For those who disagree with me, she's been in plenty of Nintendo games. There's Athena NES, KOF for GBA, Capcom V.S. SNK 2 EO.

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singapore_meh said:

Captain Jamesman, It's not because they're non-nintendo, it's because there from a fighting game. Smash bros is about making characters that haven't been in fighting games, fight.

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Ja-Mez said:

I just played N64 Smash Bros at my friends house. Its almost scary with those controls.

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Captain Jamesman said:

Singapore_meh, I hope you didn't say that just to make fun of Athena! She's a goddess & is meant to be treated as such. Oh, and if you want a non-fighter, then take Pac-Man. He rules!

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singapore_meh said:

I know what ya mean ja-mez. I used to think that game was fast-paced. And were the graphics always that blurry.

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Wii-Worshiper said:

Nice Captain Jamesman, Pac-man would be fun as a player even though he is a wimp.

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Killer Ape said:

Pac-man! I hate pac-man. He would be my 2nd worst character I would want in brawl. My 1st character I don't want in brawl is bomberman.

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Master Foot said:

They keep cutting me out of Super Smash Bros! I don't see why Master Hand gets all the glory. It's time for me to put my foot down.

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singapore_meh said:

Who the heck is Athena? I never played King of Fighters because I had better fighting games (like Smash Bros). Oh and what are Pacman's powers? Occasionally turn all of the other players blue for a few seconds? Actually that sounds good. I'm keeping that.

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Ja-Mez said:

Pac-Man and Bomberman would rule the stage. Sonic for me but besides them. They might be owned by other companies but have they appeared on another console?

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Killer Ape said:

How can you guys want pac-man in brawl? Now he's my 1st character I don't want in. I mean he's a big yellow ball that eat things.

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Ja-Mez said:

Pacman's super smash move could be he turns invincible while everyone else goes blue and he can run around and if he hits someone they're gone. Bomber man could put a gigantic bomb in the middle of the stage and put on a special bomb shield to stop him from blowing up too. Or maybe even make bombs rain from the sky!

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Pikaluk said:

Leon Kennedy for Brawl!

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singapore_meh said:

Ja-Mez, your Bomberman moves sound a little too extravagant for Smash Bros. And again how is Leon Kennedy going to be different enough from Snake to make it in? How bout Shigeru Miyamoto for Brawl? He can be a combination of other people and he uses the wii-mote as things like Samus' gun from MP3 and Links boomerang from LOZTP.

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DarkVic said:

I accept Sen's challenge. I'll kick your ass from SSBB to SSB1. The smash bros are my legacy. See you guys on wi-fi, when I'm done with all of you, you'll be begging for mercy.

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Ja-Mez said:

Ey I just realised, since it comes out next year after the Wii, what games will we buy until it comes out? For some of us, this is the only game we want.

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singapore_meh said:

Hey DarkVic I heard from an inside source that you can't beat lvl 2 computers, and that you like to play as princess peach. Could pac-man have the power to send ghosts at others?

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Amazon Kevin said:

An awesome stage would be a stage from Donkey Kong Jungle Beat. The game was kind of weird but the levels were sweet.

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Splintercell4ever said:

I know have some concrete reasons why you should put in realistic characters such as Fisher. When you have realistic characters, you can relate to their decisions and actions to yourself, since you could have been in that situation yourself. Also, SSB is a series that gives a lot of variety and lets gamers find a character they feel suited for. That being said, I think by adding realistic characters to go along with cartoonish characters would make the experience more riveting and bring in a broader audience. Just my two cents.

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PHiRE said:

Yea because we've all been in a fight with Pikachu in real life. I can totally relate to this.

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singapore_meh said:

We don't play as the character we relate to most, we play as the character that we can win the most matches with. I like Fox because he's fast enough that I can win easily.

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Splintercell4ever said:

Hey, sometimes people get big ass yellow mice in their pants. It happens. And I mean character's actions by what he does in his own game, not in Smash bros.

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singapore_meh said:

I relate to Fox because I enjoy fighting galactic shooting battles with my furry animal friends.

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Killer Ape said:

I just read that on November 3rd (this Friday) on the Nintendo Tour 06 there will be a new Super Smash Bros Brawl trailer. It said a new character will be on the trailer. I can't wait.

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Ja-Mez said:

I just played SSB (again) and I noticed how big Fox's head was. NINTENDO! What were you thining back then?

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Brawl said:

Man this game is going to break the selling record. Anyway they should make Fox a little weaker, he is too good. Add another Pokemon, Megaman zero should be in for sure, Sonic of course, Bomberman, Pac-man will probably be in it as it looks like it is a very good idea. Why are they putting only Snake? Maybe they should put 'The boss' or 'eva' just like they did with Falco and Fox (they have the same attacks).

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singapore_meh said:

Everyone likes big headed fox. Oh and Killer ape where'd you hear that?

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random hero said:

This is officially the longest page of all time.

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Ja-Mez said:

Killer Ape, if that's true, tell me as soon as it airs. I want to see! (better be Sonic on it, grumble grumble).

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Amazon Kevin said:

It would be cool if you put in a gamecube memorycard with melee memory on to be able to access all the stages from melee, or some other cool secret you can't get otherwise.

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singapore_meh said:

They wouldn't reveal sonic this early would they? And Brawl, we only get 2-3 3rd party characters, don't waste 'em on 2 guys from the same game!

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SSBB freak said:

Well that trailer showed Fox.

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Amazon Kevin said:

Whoa, Killer Ape was right. Fox looks weird.

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singapore_meh said:

Oh man the new trailer is so freaking awesome! Was that a Mario Kart stage I saw?

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waterskipper said:

Dang. Everything I've seen about this game is sweet. I just hope that characters like Marth and Roy have different move sets.

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Killer Ape said:

Now that they showed that trailer, when's the 3rd trailer coming out? When the 3rd trailer comes out I hope they don't show a character that's been in super smash bros before.

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singapore_meh said:

I don't think you can assume they're going to show us more characters before release. For melee we only knew about the 4 new default characters, and we already have that. Besides I thought seeing fox's new look was pretty sweet, and the new courses are awesome!

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I'm awsome said:

I hope that marth and roy have long range attacks.

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Captain Jamesman said:

I seriously hope Yoshi makes a comeback! He was my best character in melee! (No offense Mario) Oh, what if Birdo was playable?

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singapore_meh said:

If birdo was playable you would have the option of moving left and right, all while facing the same direction, and your choice of shooting out an egg, a fireball, or a crystal ball that helps all other players finish the lvl(that can be your super smash).

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Ja-Mez said:

Fox looks pretty sweet in his new graphics. I'd say that the next trailer should show C Falcon and Ness, since they're the only two franchise leaders left. And maybe even a new 3rd party character (Sonic he he he).

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DarkVic said:

How the hell could you get an inside source of me? I don't know anyone on this website. You're so full of crap it's coming out of your nose!

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Killer Ape said:

NO, the next trailer shouldn't show show C Falcon and Ness. The trailer should just show Nintendo characters that haven't been in it or a 3rd party character like Sonic.

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cmk said:

If Kadaj is in this game I'll wet myself.

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BrothaZ said:

RIDLEY. That's the only one I wanted since Melee came out. Please. I WILL CRY. Put in Ridley or I will work for them and destroy nintendo from the inside slowly.

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Ja-Mez said:

One thing I noticed about Fox is his feet are a lot larger.

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Donkey Kong! said:

DK should return with Diddy, Dixie and maybe Kiddy.

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singapore_meh said:

Vic that was like two weeks ago and if I was that full of crap it would come out my mouth first before it got to my nose. Honestly man you're just not making any sense!

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Killer Ape said:

Diddy is a good idea, but no dixie and kiddy.

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singapore_meh said:

Not Kiddy, he played out exactly the same as Donkey and as much as I'd like to see Dixie, I think Diddy's the only one that might be coming.

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Ja-Mez said:

Completely agree Killer Ape and Singapore_meh. Kiddy and Dixie are practically the same as Diddy.

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[]D [] []V[] []D said:

It's me Ja-Mez but I learned how to do that so that's my new name. Snake's moves look pretty awesome in the film. I'd say that move used by Wario could be called the Ass Barge. Yeah and it looks like there's a crawl feature now. Snake and Pikachu demonstrated this when Pikachu was crawling past the karts and when Snake was unaware of Wario's ass about to crush him. If they showed Shy-Guy as a part of a stage, he's obviously not playable.

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Sonic Fan said:

I hope Kyrstal from the StarFox series is in it! Because you know she could be cool to have as a secret character. As for 3rd party characters. Sonic must be in it! And I woundn't mind seeing Viewtiful Joe. And I guess Sophitia from Soulcalibur II. And Donkey Kong!, I'm sorry to tell you, but I doubt Dixie will be in it. I think Diddy would have more of a chance than Dixie. And if you noticed Fox looks like the one from StarFox Command. And I as for stages, I saw new images of stages and there going to have Yoshi's Island from the NES, and a Mario Kart Double Dash one like the one from Mute City (F-Zero) in SSBM. And an image of where you can fight in outer space!

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Killer Ape said:

I got a great character idea. YOUR MOM!

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Ja-Mez said:

Actually I think I just prefer Ja-Mez. Anyway I'd say that Nintendo might be adding a character from a completely new franchise. You never know. Scroll through the games list and if it ain't third party and you've never seen it before it could be a new arriver.

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Garth said:

I hope they keep Marth. It rhymes with Garth.

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nintendo killa said:

I hope it is for gamecube too. If melee is that sweet in gamecube then brawl will be much sweeter!

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Sonic Fan said:

There's no way this will happen but what about WWE superstars like John Cena or The Undertaker.

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Sonic Fan said:

I hope General Scales is in it!

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Killer Ape said:

Nintendo killa SSBB isn't going to be the the gamecube. By then, when SSBB games out, Nintendo won't make gamecube games.

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kuka lane said:

I love this game, this is so tight!

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Killer Ape said:

Yea I doubt WWE superstars are going to be in it.

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Amazon Kevin said:

It would be awesome if the game had special downloads. Say, near Halloween next year the would have a download for a halloween themed costume for each character. Or even special new stages.

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Ja-Mez said:

Since Wind Waker Link is in there, I'd like to see Outset Island of the Forsaken Fortress as stages. Or maybe even the Tower of The Gods. Sonic would need Angel island or Station Square as levels. Oh and please put the Phazon Mines in from Metroid Prime! I hope our own music can be uploaded too. Imagine fighting people while listening to Sandstorm but the effects and voices can still be heard!

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Riley said:

I'm back! Yeah Fox looks pretty sweet, he has his gun on him all the time now. But I would have preferred them showing Sonic.

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jskrdude said:

"BY then, when SSBB games out, Nintendo won't make gamecube games"

Nah, I bet that GG games will still come out for awhile, but they'll all be ports. And they'll keep on selling the good GG games because the Wii can play them.

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Donkey Kong! said:

One of the stages should be giant Nintendo Wii floating in space.

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Sonic Fan said:

How about pokemon in pokeballs like um Jirachi and Sudowoodo and maybe Rayquaza?

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Riley said:

Anyone want Delfino Plaza as a stage? If you were any Mario character a pianta would charge at you like crazy. A nice little field obstacle now don't you think?

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O_0 said:

I am going to get this game right when it comes out. All the super smash bros. Have ruled. They have all mad good graphics and they are alll getting better. I WANT IT MORE THAN ALL OF YOU!

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Neurotic said:

I'm hoping the game will be as awesome the first 2, I loved them. Also Pokemon are awesome, my best character was Jigglypuff. No need to say they suck because you aren't good with them.

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Ja-Mez said:

O_0, how right you are. And I'd also like to see a bigger fan of smash bros than I am. LoL kidding. I pray that Brawl comes out in the first quarter. We need all the holiday time we an get to play it. If Nintendo started production 6 months earlier, it would be along with launch.

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Amazon Kevin said:

Fox's Brawl move should be summoning hundreds of Arwing to attack all the other player on the screen. Eh? Eh? Eh.

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Sonic Fan said:

I believe they should have Slippy, but then again he always gets in to trouble and Fox always has to be the one to save him.

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Amazon Kevin said:

I forget where I heard this, but I hear they want a more in-depth 1 player mode. It should start as your chosen character minding his or her own business, when a small meteor/meteorite crashes in front them. It then would crumble, revealing some hologram message thing that invites them to the Smash Bros Tournament.

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floopy doop said:

Fox is my ultimate fighter in all the SSB games. This will be awesome!

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Captain Jamesman said:

Amazon Kevin, that would make the Smash Bros Series more fun! Whoever said that has a very smart noggin. Say, here's a good character to put in the game, Arthur from Ghosts 'n Goblins!

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Fox Mcloud said:

So they could put the plumber in the screenshot, but not me?

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Donkey Kong! said:

Luigi's mansion might be a stage.

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Ja-Mez said:

Master Chief and Samus were meant for each other. Green fox is mine! I'm not going to get the online feature. At least not on launch. I'm preordering my Wii on Sunday along with Brawl. I remember a poster at EB Games and it had the smash bros graphics. It had Mario, Link, Kirby and zero suit samus and wario. It also had that girl from Super Swing Golf Pangya. 5 Smash Characters and 1 newbie. I say this definitely hints at a new character. My theory on a completely new franchise character could be right!

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Captain Jamesman said:

Here's what I think the storyline for Smash Bros. Brawl should be. "An evil version of Mario is threatening to destroy the world of Nintendo, and the playable characters are invited to the smash bros. Tournament in order to destroy him!". I mean, there was Giga Bowser, so let there be an evil powerful clone of Mario be the villain!

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Sheena Fujibayashi said:

Omg Wii comes out tomorrow!

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Gamer_guru said:

Yeah, and the ghosts would hold power ups and stuff.

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Amazon Kevin said:

There was also some talk about customization, so I think it would be awesome if there was more than one taunt for each character, so you could choose which one you wanted. Although I don't think it would be fair if you could customize the power levels in your attacks. Seems a tad too cheap.

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Killer Ape said:

A storyline for smash bros would be dumb.

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cmk said:

MC might be a lady, remember the first Metroid?

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Some Guy said:

How's about Adventure and Classic Mode co-op?

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floopy doop said:

Did you know that there will be a dark samus?

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Ja-Mez said:

Did you say Dark Samus? She looks awesome as! But I say put in fusion Samus. Her down be could let her transform in to her second from for a limited time. And if there is a dark Samus, her super smash move could be doing damage to one opponent while regaining stamina like a real Metroid because remember, she's created from a Metroid for those who played the Metroid Prime series. All we need now for SSBB is a launch date.

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singapore_meh said:

I like the co-op idea and I really doubt they'll integrate a story into smash bros. Plot lines just aren't Nintendo's thing.

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mario said:

I want naruto in brawl.

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Joe Teh Laugh King said:

Guess what? I know the release date, it's sometime in June of 07. That's a long time to wait for the best game on the Wii but we will have other games to satisfy ourselves like Zelda TTP and Metroid 3.

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Ja-Mez said:

Metroid Prime 3 is released around March so if we buy Twilight Princess first and then Prime 3 (which is what I'm doing) we can finally get brawl 3 months later.

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Operative Snake said:

I think lolo & lala should replace ice climbers as the new duo, they would be awesome!

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Captain Jamesman said:

I want Guilty Gear Characters on Brawl! Like Dizzy, she's my favorite GG Character!

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Toad said:

Yeah I have the one for n64 and gamecube. It's gonna rock!

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Ja-Mez said:

Ey I forgot who Lolo and Lala are. Aren't they from a Kirby game? Actually, I'd recommend the Hammer Bros from Mario Bros. Who agrees?

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jerry said:

If only suitless Samus was a little more suitless.

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Killer Ape said:

I don't agree hammer bros should be in brawl. They should be an item though.

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Ja-Mez said:

Bowsers castle would be an ideal stage for Bowser rather than Yoshis Island from Super Mario World. Mewtwo also has a castle, New Island from the first Pokemon movie. I hope Samus has the Phazon Mines as a stage. The floor had blue Phazon on it and it took away like 2% every second but then after like 30 seconds, it would change to orange and take 5% like from Metroid Prime. Dlefino plaza would be good too with platforms that raise when water shots out of the Grand Pianta Statue. A new stage from Twi-Light Princess would be good. And Nintendo really needs to throw in a Fire Emblem stage. Maybe the interior of Peaches castle and I read that in Metroid Prime three, at the start, there is a vertical drop in a shaft after Ridley knoks you in and in Smash Bros, you could fight in mid air! How smart am I?

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Toad said:

I want hammer bros to be in it too. They would be a cool character to play with and battle.

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Chuck Norris said:

Add Chuck to the game, enough said.

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Nick said:

SSSB = WIFI compatible!

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SSBB freak said:

It would be cool to have a lot more adventure levels.

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Ja-Mez said:

Chuck? And Toad, put yourself in!

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Amazon Kevin said:

I was thinking Plusle and Minun could be the new ice climbers. There are 2 of them, AND they fill the last pokemon slot. The world just isn't ready for Lololo and Lalala.

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Donkey Kong! said:

I hope Bowser JR isn't in it because he replaced some of of my favorite characters the Koopalings.

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Steweh said:

I heard that this game is going to be on the 3D plane, so you can come at people from the side.

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ganondorfrules said:

Yea Delfino Isle would be an awesome map and so would Mewtwo and Bowser's castle. I think they made Fox's face too small and his feet too big. Don't get me wrong he looks awesome but some minor mistakes in my opinion and I don't think they should show Sonic in the new trailer because he is a secret character and that would ruin it.

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Ms.Nintendo said:

Damn, this game is going to be awesome. Quick question. I know the characters are awesome and all, but in that video, what the hell did a Nintendog have to do with this game?

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Donkey Kong! said:

If Toad is in it one of his attacks could be vegetables. Peach should have attacks from Super Princess Peach.

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Donkey Kong! said:

I love the Lololo and Lalala idea oh and they are ready for the world.

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Gamer_guru said:

Smash Bros 3.0 + Wi-fi + Wii = Happy me!

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Ja-Mez said:

Umm ganondorfrules, how do you know if Sonic's a secret character or not?

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Eagle Warroir said:

Wooo online!

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Yung Foo said:

Maybe the Nintendog is some sort of a distraction item for online play. Sort of like you pick up the item and the Nintendog appears on your opponent's screen, distracting him/her while you are free to charge up a smash attack and blow them to bits. I don't like Sonic, Leon would make a much better 3rd party character. Ganondorfrules, I agree Fox just doesn't look right.

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Operative Snake said:

Lolo & Lala come from their own game franchise known as Eggerland, but lately they've appeared more in the Kirby series. I think they would be the coolest duo ever, maybe the diddy & dixie duo will be cool, who knows? We'll just have to wait and see.

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Operative Snake said:

Ok META KNIGHT WILL KICK SOME MAJOR ASS! I really hope that nothing bad happens to him to make his mask fall off and reveal his real face. That would suck ass, but it would be cool if something were to happen to him to reveal his alter ego, Dark Meta Knight, or Dark Kirby! I think his smash move should make him call out his meta knights to attack his foes, that would be sick!

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Captain Jamesman said:

I want Cheerful White (aka Bomberman) to be in Brawl. Think what would happen if Peter Griffin was a playable character in the game!

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Operative Snake said:

Oh sorry, I meant that lolo & lala are from the old eggerland series, their evil clones that look exactly alike are lololo & lalala, they are bosses in Kirby's Dream Land. They are also in some other Kirby games, still I think the original lolo & lala would be better, well I guess you couldn't really tell the difference, lol. I have a whole different theory on the Pokemon. Ok they should take out Pichu, Jigglypuff and Mewtwo and replace 'em with Meowth, Blaziken and Deoxys. Plus I was watching TV for reviews on ssbb, Sakurai even said himself that he really loves lolo & lala.

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Operative Snake said:

Ok first of all Yung Foo are you nuts? Fox McCloud looks friggen amazing there! Oh and Jamez I thought about it and there is a possibility of hammer bros in brawl, but I don't think they will be playable. They'll be like the enemies in adventure mode like the redead or the koopas like in ssbm, remember? Or the rare odd time that they might appear in vs Mode.

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Operative Snake said:

Ok well here's the low down. Sakurai said in a review that he cannot guarantee the return of all the characters. I'm giving you a rating here of what is most probable. Dr Mario, he's really a useless pointless garbage character who doesn't deserve to even think about being in brawl, maybe as a Mario costume, but that's it! Ok we already have Mario confirmed, he's cool. Luigi, most definitely I can easily see him returning with some new moves. Peach, she's been appearing in more games lately, I think she'll return. Bowser, another good chance of returning, I wouldn't worry about him. Yoshi, I'd give him a 96% chance of returning, he's been in since the beginning. DK, he will also return I'm betting, let's get some more DK characters in here now! C. Falcon, another really good chance of returning and he'd better or I'll put a gun to Sakurai's head, I can own anyone with Falcon! Ganondorf, ok I know a lot of people say he won't return due to being a clone, but I give him 85% chance of returning, none of that clone rubbish, he has a whole set of his own moves! Falco hmm, not too sure. I'll give him a 55% chance, I mean I know he's a main character in Star Fox, I know Slippy and Peppy can't fight for beans but there's Wolf and Krystal to consider so we'll have to see, Falco fans keep your fingers crossed. Fox, confirmed, no worries. Ness, same as Yoshi, even though it may not seem that he will return you'll be surprised, we need more of Ness' buddies in ssbb! I'm sorry, but the ice climbers are gone, they are really up high in the super irrelevant area, I wouldn't get my hopes up, bye bye Nana & Popo. Kirby, damned right he's confirmed! Samus, she's really super attractive, I love her, she's cool, plus we already know that she's confirmed. Zelda, yea it's most likely, but the Sheik idea was so random, just get Zelda a whole new set of cool moves. Obviously Link's been confirmed. Really sorry to break it to you all, but our little cutie Pichu, he is sitting on the bench with the ice climbers and Dr Mario, in other words he's out of here. Don't feel too depressed though, some other cool Pokemon will probably replace 'em. Pickachu, I don't know how they could not include him, oh well, he's already been confirmed. Jigglypuff eh, I'll give her a 65% chance, it's better chance then Falco but hey she's been in since the start so I guess she's in brawl to stay, we'll have to see. Mewtwo, he was cool but Deoxys would own, get him in there! Needless to say, I give Mewtwo a 40% chance to stay. Mr Game & Watch, well he was cool, some interesting moves, but seriously he pretty much never existed before ssbm, he's in the boat with Pichu and the others. Marth was like the main character in the original Fire Emblem, he started the series, I'm giving him a 70% chance of staying. Ok Roy, I'll give him a 35% chance, don't get wrong Roy's pretty cool but there are other Fire Emblem characters to replace him, probably Eliwood, maybe Hector. Anyway that's my basic opinion on it.

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Ja-Mez said:

My first post was probably half of what you wrote Operative Snake! And is it true that Pichu and Dr. Mario are gone as well as Young Link, Game & Watch and the Ice Climbers? I'd be really happy about that. But keep Mewtwo. Add Deoxys in his speed for Nintendo or make the different modes of him selectable.

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Donkey Kong! said:

A new hand called Lady Hand or another one should should be introduced.

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Killer Ape said:

Geez snake can you write any longer?

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Operative Snake said:

Oh ya! Also I forgot Young Link, yup he's pretty much out of here too, maybe the Link from the wind waker. Does anyone have any thoughts on the arenas? I was thinking like a cool Mute City arena from F-Zero, the platforms could go upside down and around in loops traveling with the racers, or you could fight on top of the racer and destroy them as well, it would be sick!

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Operative Snake said:

Who kicked ass with who in SSBM? I owned with Captain Falcon, he better damned be in SSBB or I'll be super pissed. I've been practicing with him since 2003! But I think I will own some asses with Meta Knight in SSBB! Oh btw, joe teh laugh king is lying, it's not coming out in june 2007, we have no clue yet. Sakurai said he would go quiet about it until 2007, it could come out anytime within that year.

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Toad!!! said:

I agree with Operative snake. All of it. I think diddy should be in it. He's kind of popular with a few Mario games. I like Dixie kong. She could fly like peach. She wouldn't be too bad for a character I guess.

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i need a wii...eww said:

All the ones on the bench I agree with, because that's just like having Dr Kawashima as a boss or something lol. Those of you who saw his writing and thought "stuff that I ain't reading it", well read it because it's pretty good stuff. What I'm surprised no one discussed is the weapons, the hammer in ssbm owned and so did the baseball bat, but what new weaps?

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jman0726 said:

Okay we all know that the man himself is in this game, that's right Solid Snake. But to be honest how can they fit him in? Don't get me wrong I love MGS but in a game like this it's a toughie. He's a killer and I would be very shocked if he snaps Mario's neck, or knife out Pikachu's face. I don't want to see that so just throwing that out there.

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singapore_meh said:

I was a true ass kicker with fox, with pikachu in a close second. I think I'll probably be best with pit as he seems close to fox in stats.

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Wii Are The World said:

Here are my ideas for SSBB. First of all, all SSBM characters should return with the exceptions of Pichu, Dr. Mario (should be a Mario costume) and Young Link. Mr Game & Watch and the Ice Climbers probably will be gone. They will be missed. Wind Waker Link would be a great replacement for Young Link. As for Pokemon, Mewtwo should stay along with Jigglypuff (Jiggs may not have been the best but she was better than Pichu or Dr Mario, her Rollout attack was sick). New ones, Blazikien, Meowth and (for personal reasons) Squirtle. I stopped playing Pokemon after there were 251 Pokemon, so forgive me for not knowing too many new ones. Roy and Marth should stay, but no more Fire Emblem characters. As for new Mario series characters: Waluigi, Toad, Daisy as a Peach costume, Shyguy, Bowser Jr., Birdo, and Baby Mario and Luigi as a team. Diddy Kong would, in my opinion, be perfect for this game. Donkey Kong moves with agility of Pikachu. King Dedede would be pushing it because of Meta Knight. Star Wolf would be a great villain addition. As for third party guys, Megaman, Bomberman, or Sonic. Tails and Knuckles would be pushing the amount of third party guys, although they would be nice to see in Sonic's super attack. By the way, what's the deal with guys like Sora and Riku and Cloud? If I recall they were in a game called Kingdom Hearts. If they're in it then why not Mickey Mouse or Peter Pan. Besides, ANIME WOULD NOT FIT IN THIS GAME. SORRY! As for Ridley, I personally do not think a huge dragon would fit. Spyro has a better chance than him. At least he would fit on the screen. And for those who think that Pac Man would be good, can I get a hit off that joint you're smoking. His A attack could be eating you and his B attack could be eating you, oh what fun! Lastly, here are some that have no chance but would make the game a lot more interesting: Jesus, Chuck Norris, all five Tetris blocks, Harry Potter and Mr. Hankey The Christmas Poo.

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wallamudalla said:

I kick ass with Falcon, that champ is so fast. I like annoying the crap out of people when they make the careless mistake of their projectiles being reflected back at them.

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singapore_meh said:

Wii are the World, I like your character removals. The Pokemon sound good, although maybe replace mewtwo with deoxys. I think that's a few too many Mario characters, but Bowser jr sounds good. Get rid of roy and add new fire emblem character. Diddy would be cool but Dixie's a long shot. When people say pac-man, they're referring to the 3-d platformer version who can run, jump and do kicks.

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Ja-Mez said:

Fox is mine. Myy signature move is grabbing someone and then throwing them down, using my shield to deflect em away and then the Fox illusion after that. Fox is the second fastest and I love the speed characters. I'd use captain falcon but his jump is too low and he has no projectiles. Fox (if at a distance) can shoot the crap out of people because of his rapid fire. Maybe a Mii of Shigeru Myamoto should be a boss or random Miis as the replacement of Wire Frames or the Polygons. A metal special Melee (brawl) would be cool too. I'll definitely use White Meta-Knight as my first and Sonic as soon as he's unlocked if he's there. *crosses fingers* Man I can't wait for Brawl!

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Ras said:

The people you're playing aren't too smart, because they actually let you reflect projectiles back at them. Also, for a third party character I nominate a Final Fantasy 3 (6 in japan). Terra, Kefka, Sabin, Shadow and/or Celes. Final Fantasy 3 (6 in japan) had some of the top sales for Super Nintendo games, plus in my opinion is the best Final Fantasy yet; characters and storyline were all great.

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wii-mote dude said:

Hey, they should put the ducks from duck hunt in here as an item. That would be awesome! Or maybe even a duck hunt stage. You could shoot ducks as zero suit samus as a minigame!

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Injected said:

As an avid smasher, I've read up on Brawl about as much as I can. 40-50 playable characters are to be in it, "clone" characters are either to be removed or be revamped with a more personalized fighting style. Young Link is said to be Replaced with Wind Waker Link, Ice Climbers are said to be removed due to Nintendo wanting Pit to be their representative old-school character, and Mr. Game & Watch is said to be removed for a similar reason as the Ice Climbers, combined with lack of character use. Pichu is said to be removed because of difficulty personalizing his moves in a separate vein from Pikachu's moves. Zero-Suit Samus is NOT a separate character. Samus BECOMES Zero-Suit Samus (probably much like Zelda and Shiek). Master Chief has 0% chance of being in the game. Master Chief is Microsoft's iconic character. Allowing his usage in Brawl would be bolstering Brawl's popularity even further, and thus selling more units for Nintendo. Don't count on any Square Soft characters being included either, as I've read that they are in talks with Microsoft. As for characters that WILL be in it, all I can say is that if they were in BOTH previous Smash games, you can rest assured that they will be in Brawl. Those are Nintendo's core and staple characters after all. And with all that said, the release date is said to be sometime in June of 2007, but release dates tend to change. To all those who are impatient and say they can't wait, would you really want a Smash Brothers game that wasn't completely finished, refined, and polished? You can't rush perfection.

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singapore_meh said:

Injected, watch what you say because you just mixed a lot of rumors with facts. The character removals are all rumors that Sakurai refuses to confirm. Oh and Master Chief isn't gonna be here, but not because he's Microsoft's "Icon", all characters had to have appeared on a Nintendo console and he hasn't. And Square Soft isn't Microsoft's buddy. Enix just made Mario Hoops for us.

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Wii Are The World said:

I still don't think that Pac-Man would be a good character, even 3-D. I do, however, think that there should be boards dedicated to some of the older video games. For example, a Pac-Man stage, the original Donkey Kong stage (could make it like a race to the finish in adventure mode, if you get to the character, then he or she will be your ally in the next round), Galaga, Centipede, Pong, all the classics. Of course the Dunk Hunt stage, maybe with that dog coming out and attacking you and shooting ducks down to retrieve items that they're holding. Injected, I highly doubt that the reason that they are removing the Ice Climbers and Mr. Game& Watch is based solely on that they are old and so is Pit. Everything else I agree with you on. Ras, Final Fantasy characters will most likely not find their way on the battlefield. They may be popular, but I don't see them working while fighting Mario and Donkey Kong. I have just one last new character that could quite possibly be the greatest idea on this website so far. THE HAMBURGLER. Think about it.

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stonehands said:

I think putting a final fantasy character would be pretty kick ass because could you imagine Cloud from advent children in there? I could see him with a huge buster sword that could break into two swords and then his special move could be having his sword break into every sword it can and circling around a single character, slicing him as they went. He could be strong with huge swings of his sword but his character makes it seems light. He would also be able to jump high like Falco and do devastating striking moves with his sword.

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Sonic Fan said:

What about characters of Marvel like Spiderman or Wolverine? Maybe they could make an appearance?

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Turkey said:

I hope you get to pick how much HP you want in Stamina Mode.

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Killer Ape said:

Marvel characters? Yeah right. They would kill the game.

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DarkVic said:

This game is going to be awesome! I'm so excited to unlock all of the secret characters. I'm also glad the game will be on Wi-Fi, it'll make the game 10x better. It's good that they decided to put Wario in the game. I think it would be cool if they stuck Birdo in as well. The graphics are really impressive. Starfox and Link look the best and have changed the most. Those new special attacks are a great addition. Man I'm so excited!

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Skillz said:

I could see Wolverine being in there just because he would have so many possible moves and combos, but I don't think spiderman would do too well. Turkey I completely agree with you because I thought the stamina matches were always too short in ssbm.

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MMM said:

I believe that the animal crossin guy should be in this game. He can use his axe, shovel, etc.

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Toad!!! said:

Yah my favorite was the stamina. If you could set the limit. Put it at 1% to 1000% that would be the best!

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Wolfen said:

I wish Wolf and Krystal (from Star Fox) were added to the game. Wolf would be a heavier version of Fox and Falco. Krystal however, would be quite different as she would use her staff (from SF Adventures). She would be a light, swift and technical character that would fight like a mix of Sheik and Marth. Also that would add up to the male/female parity since there isn't any playable female animal/Pokemon so far.

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DarkVic said:

I'm with you Wolfen. I think they should put more Star Fox characters in as well. Also, they should put Wind waker Link and baby Bowser, that would be cool. Unfortunately Sonic won't be making an appearance, but I'm sure a lot of other great characters will compensate for their absence!

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Ja-Mez said:

Hey Wolfen, only Pokemon like Nidoran female, Nidorina, Nidoqueen, Chansee, Blisee or Jynx and Smoochum can be playable female Pokemon. Other Pokemon would just be an IT because they can be male OR female. Animal Females like Krystal would be good though, yes. And I completely agree with Turkey and Toad! The stamina mode is way too short. And a mix of Sheik and Marth? Umm, kicking with a sword? Throwing swords in stead of needles? And since Twilight Princess has come out, maybe his Zora armour and the Magic armour as outfits for Link? And Midna as her Princess for as a new Female addition too. And you know how Sakurai wants at least 40 characters in the game? Well we've already got ten, 5 are new but remember, 5 old characters are leaving so Sakurai is going to have to confirm the other 14 characters (which will leave him with 24) and add another 16 new characters. Id say there will be more than 3 third party additions because 16 Nintendo characters is going to be hard. Well wipe off 3 because of Ridley, Wind Waker Link and Deoxys. So exactly 13 Nintendo characters will have to be made. I think King Dedede would be an easy addition, he has a hammer which means he will use that most of the time, he could have a down A move like the Yoshi bomb where stars come out in the original Kirby game and he can already puff up and fly like Kirby so his jump is already taken care of! And I say Bowser's symbol should be his face like from the Mario Party Bowser spaces. Mario should have an M and Luigi an L, Peach should have a crown. I mean, if Wario gets his W don't you think they should get their letters too? Wa-Luigi should have and upside down L if he's a character. If Wolf is added, I certainly hope he doesn't have the same move set as Fox and Falco. He should have punches instead of kicks and his Fire Fox(wolf) move should be blue. Me and my friends are going to have a competition to see who can unlock all the characters first when Brawl is released. I think I'll also get a Virtual Control to play it because using the Wii-Mote and Nunchuck seems a bit uncomfortable to me. And Marvel characters? Have they ever "touched" a Nintendo console before? Not to mention, they didn't originate from games, they're from old cartoons which means they have a 0% chance of even getting a maybe from Sakurai. And I don't know if this is, but I am writing this long because I think its my hundredth post and also because I wanted to show my gratitude to Nintendo; Hi Nintendo (if you can read this) I'm a huge fan, I own the Wii and can't wait to get my hands on this game! Ok I wrote my post. Yay. Oh yea. I'd say that I have had the most posts on this page and by 100, I think some sort of award should be in order Mr Wiis World avatar! PLZ! Lol. GO SSBB!

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Toad!!! said:

Lol ja-mez! I saw your posts around sometimes. I agree with you. King dedede would be pretty good. And each character should have their own symbol. They should have a judge on it too. Like toad would be good or something. And waluigi is not in the game. I wish.

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Amazon Kevin said:

Definetly King dedede. As a die-hard Kirby fan, I have to see him in Brawl. Also, as I said before, extra downloadable costumes and or stages would be nice.

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Wolfen said:

I agree with Ja-Mez as well about King Dedede. I'm not a big fan of this character, but I can see him fitting well into the game. Same about DK's bad guy, King K Rool. SSBM somehow lacks variety in heavier characters. Maybe more DK character could be added such as Diddy, Dixie or Lanky Kong (that orangutan in DK64; he could make funny move using his long arms!). Regarding the mix of Sheik and Marth, I was thinking of it for Krystal. If she ever makes her way into the game, she could use her staff/spear (from SF Adventures) to assist acrobatic move/kicks/somersault (Sheik), or use it as a spear to poke/slash/stun (Marth), if that makes any sense. Oh, and to Krystal/furry haters, I'm not a male furry who thinks she's 'hot', I'm speaking on behalf of my two younger sisters who do not consider playing the game as another character! Also, Wolf punching rather than kicking? Yeah, that sure sounds more like him. Maybe he could also make use of that kind of bionic eye he's got since Star Fox Assault.

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singapore_meh said:

I think each character should have different unlockable costumes that change your characters gameplay a little. Like mario could get fludd, tanooki, frog, hammer bros. Link could have fierce deity link and windwaker link. Pikachu, can have pichu and raichu. That way you're still getting 40 original characters, and a bunch of clones too.

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